On Feb 5, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: Horace Heffner

JB: As we mentioned in previous postings, any nuclear reaction with Rb is
extremely unlikely, if we assume it is related in any way to a thermonuclear
reaction.

HH: I think this is true.  OTOH, the fact that a gas, Kr, would be
produced from a Rb Bose condensate wavefunction collapse, it is very
tempting to think such a thing is possible.

JB: Well, I'm not sure why 'any gas' would be preferential,

It is not that gasses per say are preferential at all. It is a matter of energy. Only those reactions that yield net energy occur (at least according to conventional theory). When I gave the following reactions as the only "Energetically Feasible Stable Bose Condensate Pairs X, Y Resulting from Reactions of the Form: Rb + Rb -- > X + Y + energy", this means I checked all such possible reactions, and these were the only 85Rb + 85Rb reactions yielding positive energy:

 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Sr38 + 84Kr36 + 2.620 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 87Sr38 + 83Kr36 + 00.527 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 88Sr38 + 82Kr36 + 4.177 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 89Y39 + 81Br35 + 1.342 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 90Zr40 + 80Se34 + 2.193 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 92Zr40 + 78Se34 + 1.145 MeV

When I backed off the energy by 2 MeV I got more:

85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Kr36 + 84Sr38 + -0.425 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 + 00.000 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Sr38 + 84Kr36 + 2.620 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 87Sr38 + 83Kr36 + 00.527 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 88Sr38 + 82Kr36 + 4.177 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 89Y39 + 81Br35 + 1.342 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 90Zr40 + 80Se34 + 2.193 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 92Zr40 + 78Se34 + 1.145 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 94Zr40 + 76Se34 + -1.816 MeV

Now here is a much more interesting variation. When I allowed short half-life product nuclei and required net energy from each reaction I still obtained the first set of reactions. But, when I permitted radioactive products and an energy deficit of up to 2 MeV, this is the much larger list I obtained:

 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 85Kr36 * + 85Sr38 * + -1.752 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Kr36 + 84Sr38 + -0.425 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 + 00.000 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Rb37 * + 84Rb37 * + -1.838 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 87Rb37 + 83Rb37 * + -0.662 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 85Sr38 * + 85Kr36 * + -1.752 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 86Sr38 + 84Kr36 + 2.620 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 87Sr38 + 83Kr36 + 00.527 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 88Sr38 + 82Kr36 + 4.177 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 89Sr38 * + 81Kr36 * + -0.431 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 90Sr38 * + 80Kr36 + -0.501 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 89Y39 + 81Br35 + 1.342 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 90Y39 * + 80Br35 * + -1.958 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 91Y39 * + 79Br35 + -1.921 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 90Zr40 + 80Se34 + 2.193 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 91Zr40 + 79Se34 * + -0.527 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 92Zr40 + 78Se34 + 1.145 MeV
 85Rb37 + 85Rb37 --> 94Zr40 + 76Se34 + -1.816 MeV

The radioactive products above are flagged with a asterisk.

I think this speaks as to one aspect of why heavy element LENR tends to create stable products. The unstable products have larger masses, thus leaving no energy (or less energy) for the reaction to be pulled off as the deflated electrons gradually reduce their binding energy and escape the nucleus, thus permitting the most energetic reactions to occur first, thus tending to prevent the reactions which create radioactive nuclei.

In the case of Rb + Rb it is somewhat coincidental that *no* reaction is energetically feasible that creates a radioactive product. It is also true that no deflated electron energy deficits were involved in the calculations, but this case still demonstrates one aspect of how the creation of radioactive products is suppressed in heavy element LENR.

There is also the question as to why fission would be expected, and not typical small particle decays, e.g. beta, proton, or alpha decay, etc. One reason is that fission occurs when Z^2/A > 47. In this case (2*37)^2/47^2 = 32.2, so no fission should be expecte, conventionally speaking. However, It seems to me that expanding wavefuction electrons in the nucleus, post BEC collapse, likely exert a powerful influence on fission via nucleus kinetic interaction, vacuum energy supplied Schrodinger pressure, and negative nuclear halo production, all of which which expand the nucleus and tear it apart.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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