At 03:06 PM 5/12/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

No. This pressure is created by both hydrogen and deuterium. The high pressure mentioned is created by electrolysis with hydrogen or deuterium generated at the surface of a hollow palladium rod.

What experiment does this reference? Arata's double-structured cathode? The pressure is not all that high in that one, although it was high enough to rupture the hollow cylinder at SRI.

Hey, I'm no expert on this, at all. I was skeptical about the *very* high pressures, but I thought you had confirmed it.

Extremely high pressure is achieved by electrolysis at the surface of an electrode, in a microscopic domain. According to some sources it is 10E47 atmospheres (Mizuno, p. 101).

And what does this mean?

I believe the maximum pressure in a cylinder can be achieved as easily with a pump hydraulically as with electrolysis. The limiting factor is the strength of the cylinder. Arata's double structured cathode results do not depend on brute force loading, nor do his more recent gas loading results.

The state is always associated with a catalyst and we must therefore assume the energy behind this effect is supplied by the cavity… Is this assuming too much?

I think so. There are cavities involved, likely. However, they are not supplying any energy, apparently, rather they *configure* the reacting ingredient or ingredients.

There is no significant volume of cavities in a successful cold fusion cathode.

The entire palladium lattice can be considered a collection of cavities.

If there are cavities, the cathode will not produce the effect. It has to be an intact lattice. A sample with cavities will bend or expand much more than an intact lattice; see:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEhowtoprodu.pdf

In a successful cathode, the deuterium is in solution with the metal, with deuterons interspersed in the metal lattice. The exact configuration -- with how many deuterons at each tetrahedral and octahedral site -- is disputed.

Yes. My suspicion is that overloading is required, but this could be transient, i.e., a lattice might be loaded to 1:1, but then a shock wave or other phenomenon causes some level of overloading locally. Loading generally refers to the bulk; the nuclear effect is apparently at the surface. Subsurface conditions can affect surface conditions, which would be the connection.

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