In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Sun, 12 Dec 2010 23:31:18 +0100:
Hi David,
[snip]

It may be technically impossible for a significant mass, but I think that for
individual molecules it would be trivial.

e.g. two carbon atoms separated by a distance of say 3 Angstrom, I get

Force to balance gravity x separation distance = minimal binding energy i.e.

24*amu*g*3*Angstrom = 7.3E-16 eV 

which is absolutely trivial compared to the binding energy of most molecules.
 
If one were to use a plasma of molecular ions suspended in a DC mag field (to
orient them), spun up  with a superimposed EM field, it might have quite some
effect. :)

...however I suspect that the real problem lies in that the "end point" of the
centrifugal force is the center of rotation, not the center of the Earth. :(


>I have read now.
>
>Why can't they clearly write what it is all about? It seems like mystic or
>allegoric activity.
>
>Have they just found out the effect or can they really explain what it is
>all about?
>
>The mechanics behind my effect is really simple. Horizontal movement at the
>escape velocity causes a stable trajectory where gravity forces are
>cancelled by centrifugal forces.
>
>If they are supposed to lift a flying wheel according to my idea with most
>of its mass at its rim with a diameter of 0.4 meters they have to rotate the
>wheel at 35.2 km/s = 28 000 revolutions per seconds = 1 680 000 rpm and that
>is technically impossible. I think the speed record is around 500 m/s for
>extremely well balanced cylindrical gas centrifues. Even a fingerprint will
>give the cylinder an imbalance that makes it impossible to use at full
>speed.
>
>I calculated in the following way. The escape velocity on Earth is 11.2
>km/s. Since a rotating motion is only partially horizontal in motion the
>speed has to be multiplied with pi to get an average speed at the escape
>velocity. The rest is geometry.
>
>Laithwaite mentions speeds of 5-6000 rpm which is 0.4% of a full lift so
>maybe the effect is noticeable.
>
>David
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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