On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Mark Iverson wrote:

Hi Fran:
Yes, agreed... The comment about steam was only half serious!
The thought there was that the steam was 'exhaust' and dilution of the 'fuel' with exhaust would decrease efficiency. But that was thinking of this thing like an internal combustion engine...

However, no one has commented at all about the main point of my posting. There was all this concern and angst about a runaway reaction and, oh my, how dangerous this is, and its going to be soooooo difficult to make a 'safe' reactor. It has been said, by Rossi himself, that the reaction stops very quickly (within seconds, or a few tens of seconds?) after you stop the hydrogen flow...

-Mark

I made some comments regarding reaction control, via thermal cycling here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg41599.html

I suspect it is not flow but pressure drop, the loss of hydrogen partial pressure, that is the important result from "turning off the hydrogen".

Confirmation of this concept occurs in the form of a gamma "flash" that occurs when the hydrogen is shut off. This flash is what is expected by the deflation fusion model. As the hydrogen concentration quickly drops, due to the small nano-powder grain size, the tunneling rate momentarily jumps, as does the reaction rate. If the grain size were larger, this degassing process would last longer, and the momentary increase in nuclear activity would be called "heat after death". The reaction is quickly shut down because in a nano-powder the effect of the loss of hydrogen concentration, quickly overwhelms the momentarily increased tunneling rate. This quick shut down might not happen in the case where melting of the powder occurs, and longer diffusion paths exist. This is of course speculation, as is almost all talk about the Rossi device, given the little we know about it. Even Rossi says he doesn't understand why it works. Everyone is forced into speculating when talking about issues like this.

Replacing the hydrogen flow with another gas flow, e.g. carbon dioxide, has the effect of cutting the hydrogen partial pressure while simultaneously sustaining a cooling flow.

While engineering these kinds of simple parameters, gas pressure and temperature, are readily engineered, the longer term effects of other parameters, such as changing lattice structure, magnetic and electric fields, grain size stability, and transmutation product accumulation, may present as yet unknown control risks.

Those are my speculations. 8^)

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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