Jones has explained the case better than me.
It was a peristaltic pump, see Celani's report "peristaltic pump, small size
10-20 W power" I have used this type of pump for many liquids, including
phosgene- so I noticed it immediately.
The temperature of the steam was 101 C- and to be again personal when you
are burned with it as I was twice, you don't feel the difference..
I hope to see a similar device, if my health permits I will visit Francesco
Piantelli this summer and see his cells in action.
Peter



On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you for the clarification.
>
> My only point was that there was a coincidence in need of explaining:
> the power in and power out *seem* to be set independently and yet they
> match to a nicety.
>
> Your explanation of that coincidence, given below, is in rough agreement
> with Jones's, which is that there is (or could be) either explicit or
> implicit feedback to the reactor itself which is pinning the output
> temperature.  Robin also speculated that that might be the case.
>
> That's reasonable, but again, I'd really like to see such an assertion
> from someone who knows.  If it's true, then it has interesting
> implications of its own regarding the fine control it's possible to
> exercise over the reaction.
>
> The thing I find totally frustrating is that so many people on this list
> seem to feel that there is nothing here in need of explaining, because
> steam is just always magically at 100C.
>
> I hope to see a similar device, if my health permits I will visit Francesco
Piantelli this summer and see his cells in action.

>
> On 02/09/2011 12:52 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
> > I have understood. I have even worked with many types of pumps,
> > including those with constant, fixed flow, as in this case- the
> > peristaltic pump..
>
> A nit:  It's not a peristaltic pump, it's a constant displacement pump.
> The practical difference, as I understand it, is that the latter
> provides even more precise control over the flow rate.
>
> > Very probably the system works in this way- you have a core, very hot
> > in the center of the device- Ni and H reacting in a metallic tube.. By
> > external heating - with the input current a resistor heats the core to
> > a temperature (350 C?) and the reaction is started. It releases heat
> > and if this heat is not removed fast enough the core  overheats and
> > stops working.
>
> Implicit negative feedback to the reaction.   That's certainly possible,
> but if so, it would be nice if someone from the experimental team would
> state it as a fact.
>
> > With sufficient cooling as in this case it works - probably the inner
> > temperature oscillates in some limits. The entire quantity of cooling
> > water is evaporated and a bit overheated. We don't know how the Ecat
> > is controlled, probably the heat furnished by the resistor is
> > automatically adjusted to the cooling load. Remember that Rossi told
> > that he heat after death regime, zero input (after the start of
> > reaction)  can be dangerous.
>
>
>

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