Yessir! have discussed this with Brian. I have concluded long time ago that CF is not reproducible because the active sites are covered with other gases from air (as polar as worse) that destroy their activity. For Ni-H I know how does the Piantelli Cell work, a lot is in his 2 patents WO1995/20816 and especially, WO 2010/58288 please see how drastically- high vacuum, high temperature, many cycles is nanoNi cleaned. Piantelli says the presence of foreign(not hydrogen) gas molecules inhibits the process.
We don't know much about what is Rossi doing, is his system more tolerant to air and its impurities. Stremmenos has told in one of his interviews how it was discovered that the system (which?) works only after deep degassing. I believe that clean metal surface- is a sine qua non condition for a working material/setup. This is a simple, cut-the-Gordian-Knot type idea. If it works, OK if not you can test all those conditions and ideas you describe, that are based on bright theories. Peter On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Roarty, Francis X < [email protected]> wrote: > Peter, > > Does your comment regarding reproducibility also apply to > Brian Ahern’s baking of nano powder in regular air? Do you think he would do > better to bake in a vacuum? Would even inert gases like helium be inferior > to vacuum? The recent thread on different alloying methods of spin melting, > sputtering, electroless plating and deposition already suggests the > preparation is just as important as material selection in creating these > active sites but now it appears these sites, from the moment of creation, > must be protected from contamination or they will simply self destruct. I am > still of the old “MAHG” school of thought where the initial energy source > is thought to be ZPE / dynamic Casimir effect which repeatedly translates > the orbitals of whatever gas molecules are trapped at the active sites in > the changing Casimir geometry/changing energy density. The Haisch-Moddel > patent suggests there is something to be gained even when applying noble gas > to these sites based on Lamb Pinch but I don’t think this would be > considered a destructive force since the geometry is much less active and > the endless gas circulation is controlled through a large surface area of > alternating Casimir and non Casimir geometry forcing endless LESSER > translations in both directions as compared to hydrogen which would need > smaller geometry and alternate between H1 and H2. I think the Haisch Moddel > theory of operation being based on noble gas indirectly supports your > perspective on gas loading density being a misleading metric – a coincidence > of bulk properties that doesn’t apply to powder. > > > > > > My point is that we may need to start testing matrices of > different baking procedures with different cover gases or vacuum conditions > along with the different alloying methods and secret catalysts already being > discussed. It may be that the real difficulty is in maintaining these active > sites once created and if we solve that issue we could find the sites are > being created and self destructing all around us all the time but so > reactive they simply vanish faster than we can detect. > > Regards > > Fran > > > > *From:* Peter Gluck [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:21 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ahern in Next Big Future > > > > Jed, I agree with our vision re. the competition between bulk and surface > of Pd for D. It is about active sites on the surface call the m NAE if you > wish. The thirst of bulk for deuterium has a negative influence on the > functionality of the active sites and therefore the conditions necessary > > for an usable energy source are not fulfilled: > > > > INTENSITY- depends on the density of the active sites; > > > > REPRODUCIBILITY- if the active sites are inactivated by > > gases different from deuterium, good-by reproductibility! > > > > CONTINUITY- active sites are dynamic, they have to be generated constantly > for long time > > > > It seems the fact that cold fusion (largo sensu) was discovered in > palladium was historical bad luc k to the field. > > > > Peter > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > See: > > > > http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/brian-ahern-getting-8-watts-in-low.html > > > > This article includes some quotes which I assume are from Ahern made during > his MIT presentation. I wish people would attribute quotes > more carefully. Some quotes: > > > > > > "A rough calibration suggests that the 30 grams of hydrated nanopowder > is putting out 5 watts of excess power." > > > > Rather too rough, in my opinion. I wish he would use a Seebeck calorimeter > or something like that. > > > "Yesterday Peter Gluck suggested that the relationship between loading > and excess power may be a myth. This seemed to be true for electrolysis with > Pd and heavy water where loading levels exceeding 0.9 D/M were a > prerequisite for observing excess power." > > > > I think Peter overstates this. Loading is correlated with excess power in > bulk palladium-deuterium systems, especially with electrolysis. However that > does not mean it correlates with gas loaded powder system s, or with > hydrogen. In other words, the loading is necessary with bulk material, but > that may be for some secondary reason. The high loading triggers unknown > condition X, and condition X in turn triggers the heat. With gas loaded > powder, condition X occurs by itself. My guess is that with bulk material, > without high loading, the deuterons are not "presented" to the surface from > underneath, and for some reason that is necessary. > > > - Jed > > > > > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > > Cluj, Romania > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
