Peter Gluck: Interesting- if oxygen replaces the other gases. can you suggest a
method of "chemically trapping oxygen"?
nano iron particles that we prepared in a noble gas and then released into the
chamber only after the vacuum had been pumped out as much as possible.
Other elements would probably be better, sodium?
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Wm. Scott Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
I have wondered why a better vacuum might be made by filling it with oxygen,
pumping it out, then chemically trapping the rest of the oxygen. --Not saying
its a good idea, but does anyone care to comment?
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:42:15 +0300
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ahern in Next Big Future
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Dear Fran,
We are thinking differently. In this case Piantelli obtains his nanoNi by a
physical method method, Molecular Beam Epitaxy with the desired morphology and
the active sites have to be made free, cleaned. . Not the case of partially
damaged sites.
There are many physical and chemical processes of making nanoNI- perhaps Rossi
has found a better one.
Vacuum mills is an excellent idea in principle- how high a vacuum can be
achieved and maintained?
Alloys opens a new dimension, it is possible some will work better even than
Ni- but only experiment can say.
Re Cleaning I give you an example from my practice. Some acrylic monomers are
extremely sensible to the presence of Sulphur compunds, even under 1 ppm. To
determine analytically S is an ordeal. The engineers add a spoon of copper salt
to the batch and S is fixed, harmless. Radical solution.
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]>
wrote:
Peter,
The repeated cleaning cycles used by Piantelli seems like a
limited method of partially salvaging damaged sites. I would suggest
instead to mill the powder inside a vacuum chamber where even the small
amount of ambient gases left from the original ore can outgas while the
geometry is being reduced. Much smaller geometry should be achieved in vacuum
without heating of the metal from the reacting gases. The obvious difficulty is
collecting the pristine millings while still under vacuum and alloying them by
spin melt or sputtering with the inner reac
tor wall surface. Perhaps the external cooling system should be already
running and kept running to keep the smallest geometry of the forming alloys
from collapsing due to the stiction forces? I don’t think pristine nano powder
should require pressure loading of hydrogen and could even operate with the
powder still under partial vacuum.
Fran
From: Peter Gl
uck [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ahern in Next Big Future Yessir! have discussed
this with Brian. I have concluded long time ago that CF is not reproducible
because the active sites are covered with other gases from air (as polar as
worse) that destroy their activity. For Ni-H I know how does the Piantelli Cell
work, a lot is in his 2 patents WO1995/20816 and especially, WO 2010/58288
please see how drastically- high vacuum, high temperature, many cycles is
nanoNi cleaned. Piantelli says the presence of
foreign(not hydrogen) gas molecules inhibits the process. We don't know much
about what is Rossi doing, is his system more tolerant to air and its
impurities. Strem
menos has told in one of his interviews how it was discovered that the system
(which?) works only after deep degassing. I believe that clean metal surface-
is a sine qua non condition for a working material/setup. This is a simple,
cut-the-Gordian-Knot type idea. If it works, OK if not you can test all those
conditions and ideas you describe, that are based on bright theories.Peter
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]>
wrote:
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