On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Harry Veeder <hlvee...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity
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> A common misconception
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> Reading this makes me think Galantini used the probe correctly.
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> Harry
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That probe uses a capacitance measurement to determine the relative
humidity. Typically, this measurement is made using a capacitor with a
polymer dielectric which absorbs or releases water proportional to the
relative environmental humidity, and thus changes the capacitance of the
capacitor, which is measured by an onboard electronic circuit. (
www.sensorland.com/HowPage047.html)


Such a device is calibrated in air, to represent the partial pressure of
water vapor in air. It is not at all clear how that measurement can be used
to determine the amount of mist (liquid droplets) entrained in water vapor.
It seems likely that a mist-steam mixture would cause the polymer to be
wetter than if the steam were dry. So a higher RH reading would indicate
wetter, not drier, steam. Probably, inside that conduit, the polymer is
saturated with water no matter what, and it reads close to 100% RH all the
time.


In any case, if the device is to be used to determine liquid content in
steam, it would at least have to be calibrated for that purpose. There is no
indication such a calibration was performed.


It would be possible, just from the experiments performed, to determine if
the RH probe were of any use. If the RH readings were *monitored* on a
continuos basis, like the temperature, and *reported*, we could see if the
reading ever actually changes. Presumably the steam must begin wet and then
become drier as the power transfer increases. During this process, does the
RH reading on that probe change? If it doesn't, whatever it is measuring is
not relevant to the liquid content of the steam.


There are two very simple ways to prove the steam is dry: (1) Measure the
output flow rate (velocity); if it is steam, it should be 1700 times higher
than the input flow rate; (2) Reduce the input flow rate so the steam
temperature exceeds boiling by more than a few degrees -- say 120C or so.
That these two methods are not used suggests the steam is not dry.

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