Jeff,

Mass of water in = mass of water out

It doesn't get any simpler.

Everyone is assuming (wrongly) that they are using the instrument to measure 
the liquid content
directly, which the instrument clearly cannot do.  That is NOT what they are 
doing.  You obviously
didn't read my posting where I describe the simple algebra required to figure 
out how this can be
done... 

The instrument DOES provide a (calculated) value for the mass of water which is 
in the form of
vapor... Its called the mixing ratio (sometimes referred to as mass ratio) and 
is displayed in
g/cubic meter, which is exactly what Galantini states... "device indicates the 
grams of water by
cubic meter of steam".  From that, one can easily work backward and calculate 
the mass of liquid
water using simple algebra... One can calulate the mixing ratio from the 
humidity.

I agree that this is not the most desirable method, but is valid, unless you're 
claiming that they
are violating the conservation of mass.

-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Driscoll [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:relative humidity

> Yes, you're on the right track... see my posting at 6/21 at 9:04pm.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg48242.html
>
> I would bet that Galantini is making an indirect measurement of the 
> liquid water content as explained in my posting.
>
> -Mark


no, there is no way to make an indirect measurement of steam quality using a 
humidity probe that is
designed for *air*


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note the work enthalpy in the above text,  it measures the enthalpy of
the humid air!   not steam quality !!!

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