YOW -- WHAT YOU JUST SAID !!!!

On 11-06-24 04:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

So the only way for Rossi to make it produce a little steam and a lot of hot water would be for him to adjust the anomalous heat output. It would be a miracle if Rossi has such good control over the anomalous heat that he can push the temperature up to 99°C and have mostly liquid water go through plus a little steam. If he can do that, he has truly mastered cold fusion!

Jed, man, think about that -- don't just jerk your knee at me in an automatic defense of Rossi, really think about it.

Rossi has a factor of SEVEN in output level in the range he has to hit in order to produce SOME steam and SOME hot water, and you have just said it would be hard for him to control the anomalous heat well enough to do that.

But Rossi's claiming to have produced exactly enough heat to EXACTLY vaporize all the input water, and NOT HEAT THE STEAM beyond boiling -- that target is orders of magnitude smaller than the target he'd need to hit to produce some steam and some hot water! If he overshoots his "dry steam" power level by even a little, the steam temperature will go up by a lot; the specific heat of steam is very small compared to the heat of vaporization of water. But the temperature never rises more than about a degree over boiling!

Jed, the point you just made is the point that's been bugging me all along -- it would take a miracle of fine control to generate EXACTLY enough anomalous heat to EXACTLY vaporize all the input water, without superheating the steam, and without leaving wet steam or having the device spit water!

There's no evidence of that degree of control, no evidence of a feedback loop which could be providing it, no reason except wishful thinking to believe such control exists ... so the conclusion is that he's actually got the power level set somewhere within the "factor of 7" window, and he's producing very wet steam or a mix of steam and liquid water; he does *NOT* have it "right on the edge", producing dry steam just over the boiling point. It's absurd to think he could exercise the level of precise control needed to produce "exactly dry steam".

(And that about uses up my Friday night send-some-useless-email time...)

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