On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]>wrote:
> YOW -- WHAT YOU JUST SAID !!!! > > > On 11-06-24 04:20 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> >> So the only way for Rossi to make it produce a little steam and a lot of >> hot water would be for him to adjust the anomalous heat output. It would be >> a miracle if Rossi has such good control over the anomalous heat that he can >> push the temperature up to 99°C and have mostly liquid water go through plus >> a little steam. If he can do that, he has truly mastered cold fusion! >> > > Jed, man, think about that -- don't just jerk your knee at me in an > automatic defense of Rossi, really think about it. > > Rossi has a factor of SEVEN in output level in the range he has to hit in > order to produce SOME steam and SOME hot water, and you have just said it > would be hard for him to control the anomalous heat well enough to do that. > > But Rossi's claiming to have produced exactly enough heat to EXACTLY > vaporize all the input water, and NOT HEAT THE STEAM beyond boiling -- that > target is orders of magnitude smaller than the target he'd need to hit to > produce some steam and some hot water! If he overshoots his "dry steam" > power level by even a little, the steam temperature will go up by a lot; the > specific heat of steam is very small compared to the heat of vaporization of > water. But the temperature never rises more than about a degree over > boiling! > > Jed, the point you just made is the point that's been bugging me all along > -- it would take a miracle of fine control to generate EXACTLY enough > anomalous heat to EXACTLY vaporize all the input water, without superheating > the steam, and without leaving wet steam or having the device spit water! > > There's no evidence of that degree of control, no evidence of a feedback > loop which could be providing it, no reason except wishful thinking to > believe such control exists ... so the conclusion is that he's actually got > the power level set somewhere within the "factor of 7" window, and he's > producing very wet steam or a mix of steam and liquid water; he does *NOT* > have it "right on the edge", producing dry steam just over the boiling > point. It's absurd to think he could exercise the level of precise control > needed to produce "exactly dry steam". > > (And that about uses up my Friday night send-some-useless-email time...) > > Thanks. You put it better than I did.
