Joshua Cude <[email protected]> wrote: Nope. When you put 800 W into something like this, a large fraction of it >> radiates from the cell into the surroundings. >> > > The cell is insulated. >
It is too hot to touch according to witnesses. The insulation means it takes longer to get hot on the outside; the difference between the inside and the outside is greater; and more heat transfers to the water. But there is still plenty being radiated out. > > >> The "recovery rate" for the water flowing through will be maybe 50% to >> 75%. In other words, only 400 to 600 W reaches the water. >> > > I don't believe it. Then the insulation would be radiating 200W to 400W. > Not plausible. > That isn't much with a large object that is too hot to touch. > And if you're claiming 50 - 75 % for any power, then at 5 kW, about 2.5 kW > would have to radiate from the insulation. Are you claiming that? > Dunno. Recovery rates change with temperature, flow rates and other conditions. Actually, they usually get worse. Probably this is producing ~4 kW and that makes the surface too hot to touch. If, as you believe, it is only producing 800 W then the insulation isn't very good, is it? All I know is that people have reported it is too hot to touch, as is the hose coming out of it. No. It doesn't. Whatever the fluid is, and regardless of the shape, it's > gonna flow through. It does it as a liquid, and it does it as a steam-liquid > mixture. There's a pump forcing it through. > If the water was overflowing out of the top and down the hose, cold water would be coming in to replace the boiling water and the temperature would drop below boiling, as I said. Probably down to around 95 deg C. It is very difficult to maintain a flow calorimeter outlet temperature of exactly 101 deg C unless the water is boiling, leaving as vapor, and only the vapor touches the temperature sensor. Rossi could tell it is overflowing by watching the temperature. When it falls below 100 deg C, he increases anomalous heat. If not enough water comes in and it dries up, the temperature would rise above 101 deg C, and he reduces it. He can control the strength of the anomalous heat. I do not know how he does that. Apparently he has enough control to keep the bottom portion filled with boiling water but not overflowing. I thank Jouni Valkonen for that observation, by the way. > There will be self-powered ones with electric power generation within a >> year or so. >> > > And will that be used to power the CF car you predicted would be built > before the year 2000? > The only reason we did not have cold fusion powered cars by 2000 was because of academic politics and irrational opposition by people like you. I believe Mallove predicted that, not me. I predicted that academic politics would destroy the field, and end all of the research. - Jed
