Mark,

Why measure steam quality at all? If there is one lesson we all should have
learned from the many painful gigabytes of wasted bandwidth on Vortex about
steam quality, it is that you simply cannot satisfy everyone this way. Too
many variables. 

But there is a simpler and more accurate way which Horace and others have
alluded-to since the beginning. Condense the steam from the start in a
closed-cycle ! Doh !

AFAIK there is no good reason not to condense the steam into a (known) mass
of water using and measure the temp gain in the water. It is almost
fool-proof. You can cross-check this number, which is very important - by
simply datalogging the flow rate or the return water x Delta-T. That way,
there can be little doubt since you have an independent cross-check already
to operated with an easily calibrated system. 

Importantly, if one chooses the insulated domestic or commercial electric
water heater, and the best size is in the 80 gallon range, then one already
has this built-in means of correctly sized calibration plus an ideal
run-time for a monitored experiment or the Rossi type. 

As it turns out, these mass-produced systems are sized precisely to heat up
(to below boiling) in about two hours using 5-10 KWhr of electricity. Most
of them have internal circulation system to stabilize the temperature so you
can use you lowest reading instead of average. But mainly there is no steam
quality issue by adding a small commercial heat exchanger to the plumbing -
or even condense the E-Cat output using an internal coil of copper pipe (the
moonshiners method). The tank is already insulated but you can add more, and
the plumbing connectors are standard. No excuses, no whining. Essentially,
you get a free 100,000 man-hours of engineering with your domesticated
calorimeter.

It is such a perfect setup for the 5-10 kW range - and the results of
testing should be so precise and idiot-proof without high cost, that it can
be considered suspicious NOT to go this route IMHO.

Jones


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Iverson 

Perhaps we should all contribute a few bucks, buy one and have it shipped to
Professor Levi at the U
of B!  :-)

-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Michele Comitini 

Here it is:

http://www.steamquality.co.uk/Steam_Test_Kit.htm
http://www.steamquality.co.uk/steam%20pdf/SQTK_&_Accessories_Brochure.pdf

mmmh i see a temperature probe with datalogger...

mic



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