IMO, what Rossi should have done is a clear qualitative demonstration of excess heat production. This would involve running the ECat for a period of time with and without hydrogen gas, using the same electrical power input and water flow. The amount of steam produced should be visibly greater with the hydrogen. Harry
----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Iverson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:44:08 PM > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steam Test Kit > > Hi Jones! > > As a significant contributor to the 'painful gigabytes of wasted > bandwidth' over the steam quality > issue, I certainly agree with your comments. You might not have noticed the > smiley I put at the end > of my comment about sending the test kit to Levi -- it was mostly just an > attempt at humor! > However, I hope someone here will at least send Rossi and Levi and Galantini > a > link to that > website... I'm just too busy right now to bother. > > Better yet, perhaps the company would be willing to donate a test kit since, > if > results turn out in > the E-Cat's favor, it would be the best possible ROI that the company ever > made in its > advertising/marketing budget! Just think of the tag lines... "Our test kit > helped usher in the next > revolution in energy production technologies!" or "Our test kit helped > end the reign of Big Oil!" > Heck, even if things didn't go well, they could say they helped debunk a > massive scam... Either > way, it's a win-win for them! > [ 0.5 * :-) ] > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Steam Test Kit > > Mark, > > Why measure steam quality at all? If there is one lesson we all should have > learned from the many > painful gigabytes of wasted bandwidth on Vortex about steam quality, it is > that > you simply cannot > satisfy everyone this way. Too many variables. > > But there is a simpler and more accurate way which Horace and others have > alluded-to since the > beginning. Condense the steam from the start in a closed-cycle ! Doh ! > > AFAIK there is no good reason not to condense the steam into a (known) mass > of > water using and > measure the temp gain in the water. It is almost fool-proof. You can > cross-check > this number, which > is very important - by simply datalogging the flow rate or the return water x > Delta-T. That way, > there can be little doubt since you have an independent cross-check already > to > operated with an > easily calibrated system. > > Importantly, if one chooses the insulated domestic or commercial electric > water > heater, and the best > size is in the 80 gallon range, then one already has this built-in means of > correctly sized > calibration plus an ideal run-time for a monitored experiment or the Rossi > type. > > > As it turns out, these mass-produced systems are sized precisely to heat up > (to > below boiling) in > about two hours using 5-10 KWhr of electricity. Most of them have internal > circulation system to > stabilize the temperature so you can use you lowest reading instead of > average. > But mainly there is > no steam quality issue by adding a small commercial heat exchanger to the > plumbing - or even > condense the E-Cat output using an internal coil of copper pipe (the > moonshiners > method). The tank > is already insulated but you can add more, and the plumbing connectors are > standard. No excuses, no > whining. Essentially, you get a free 100,000 man-hours of engineering with > your > domesticated > calorimeter. > > It is such a perfect setup for the 5-10 kW range - and the results of testing > should be so precise > and idiot-proof without high cost, that it can be considered suspicious NOT > to > go this route IMHO. > > Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Iverson > > Perhaps we should all contribute a few bucks, buy one and have it shipped to > Professor Levi at the U > of B! :-) > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michele Comitini > > Here it is: > > http://www.steamquality.co.uk/Steam_Test_Kit.htm > http://www.steamquality.co.uk/steam%20pdf/SQTK_&_Accessories_Brochure.pdf > > mmmh i see a temperature probe with datalogger... > > mic >
