Joe Catania wrote:

There certainly are facts involved namely could the boiling be caused by the heat stored in the metal, etc. of the E-Cat to last 15 minutes.

Facts. Hmmmm. . . . Okay then, tell us:

How much metal? How hot did it get? Assume 3 kWh are stored, enough to vaporize 4.4 kg of water. Recall that 2 ordinary middle-aged professors easily lifted the machine and put on a weight scale.

How long would it take to store up this heat with 3 kW maximum input? That is the most you can input with ordinary wires. Remember your hypothesis is that there is no anomalous heat, and therefore no input power after the electricity is turned off. The only source of input energy is the ordinary wire shown going into the machine, which cannot conduct more than 3 kW -- which is nowhere near enough to even boil the water in the first place, but we'll ignore that. We assuming that for some inexplicable reason their power meter is wrong, and we'll ignore that, too. Remember also that they were boiling water before the heat after death, and the temperature was already at the maximum. How did it manage to store 3 kWh? You have 3 kW input, 12 kW goes to boiling, and some other power goes to heating the metal to well over 1000°C. Perhaps you have in mind they vectored the negative 10 kW into antimatter. Your model seems implausible but as you say, there "certainly are facts" here.

How good would the insulation have to be so keep the metal from cooling off during this storing-up period? How good do you think the insulation shown in the photo might be? (Answer: not very.)

Where do you find a conventional joule heater or a wire going into the device that can withstand such high temperatures? These are ordinary wires and a machine made of ordinary steel, not nichrome.

Why didn't the 50 people attending the demonstration notice that the machine was incandescent? Some of them held their hands over it. Some parts of the machine metal are exposed.

I think you need to work on this model. I suggest you try doing some tests with hot metal. You can heat a large chunk to incandescence and then drop it into a pail of water, the way a blacksmith does. Measure the water temperature. You will find it does not increase much. This demonstrate the tremendous difference between the specific heat of water and metal. Just bringing the water up to boiling temperature would take far more metal than this device has. Vaporizing it would take hundreds of kilograms of metal, extremely well insulated.

- Jed

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