About multiple e-kittens in a box, question 2) from the exchange below on JONP:
Andrea Rossi September 16th, 2011 at 4:23 AM Dear Alessandro Casali: 1- I prefer not to give this info, for security reasons 2- multiple 3- see 1 4- yes 5- longer 6- will need drive time to time 7- everything upgrades in time 8- I ddid NOT say that we are already working, I said the first steps have been made: signed the contract and some other thing. The proper R&D with the University of Bologna did not start yet. Warm Regards, A.R. Alessandro Casali September 16th, 2011 at 3:39 AM Dear Dr. Rossi, glad to see your Plant in the flash, many congratulations! I didn’t know you were assembling the plant in Bologna, i thought it was in US? did you manufacture also the cores in Italy or have you shipped them trom US? The 27MW e-cats are single core or do they have multiple cores? Did you already ship the plant to US? I was surprised by the weight (80kg) of the latest e-cats, did you increase the thickness of the lead shield? Mats Lewan says self sustained mode can last up to 30 min and then needs some 10 mins of input power to keep reaction going, is it exactly like that or can it last any longer? Do you think future generations of e-cat will be able to run always in self sustained mode or do you think they will always need input energy from time to time? If non always in self sustained mode, do you think future e-cats will reach a better balance than 1-6? if yes what do you think could be the maximum balance? Since you recently stated UNIBO is already working on e-cat R&D, does that mean that you have already provided them with an e-cat? Thanks for your patience in reading my lot of questions. Warm Regards, ac. 2011/9/20 Jouni Valkonen <jounivalko...@gmail.com>: > Peter, thanks for this idea. This superheating process to eliminate > corrosive agents might be plausible with Rossi. Therefore we might not be > able to trust thermometer as a reliable pressure sensor, if it is not placed > under the liquid water level. But we need to find other means to measure > pressure inside, if we are to do accurate calorimetry. > > And also special thank you for understanding why steam quality is important > factor in the industry. Indeed, water droplets in the suspension may cause > corrosion in the long run. This tells something how misplaced steam quality > discussion has been. > > —Jouni > > On Sep 19, 2011 8:30 PM, "Peter Heckert" <peter.heck...@arcor.de> wrote: >> Am 16.09.2011 21:26, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: >>> At 11:57 AM 9/16/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: >>>> The important information is: There is no superheated steam because >>>> inside the ecat is everything almost at boiling temperature. For >>>> superheated steam you need an extra heater that heats the steam and >>>> there is none. >>>> Because the temperature inside the e-cat is above 100 degrees the >>>> boiling temperature inside must be above 100 degrees and therefore >>>> the pressure inside the ecat must be above 1 bar. >>> >>> I still think that the 2-chamber design explains more than the >>> 1-chamber 3-bar design. The core could easily be engineered with a >>> water-efficient heat exchanger in one chamber, and a steam-efficient >>> heat exchanger in the other. >> Someone had the idea Rossi might have multiple small e-cats in this big >> box. >> Possibly he uses one for superheating and possibly this did not work as >> intended. >> This would explain his claims "superheated steam, water comes from >> condensation". >> He told us what he believed, but he was in error he didnt understand >> what was going on. >> Apparently he doesnt know that the purpose of superheated steam is to >> avoid condensation. >> If there is superheated steam and the hose is isolated then it is always >> hotter than 100 centigrade inside and there is no condensation and no >> water erosion. This is the reason why they superheat steam in industrial >> machines. >> >> Best, >> Peter >> >
