Jed if you can't explain your position you are a fraud. Me building a test circuit is not going to vindicate you. Lewan hasn't answered queries about the freq device but most people know that cheap meters cannot follow this well. If current and voltage aren't in phase its no good. If high freqs distrurb meter likewise. I'm saying the coicidence is glaring that excess energy is only produced after this device starts therefore it not measuring power accurately. How that, in your mind, requires me to test it is beyond everyone here. The idea here is not to assume that the power measurements are valid. Proove that! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Krivit report on Oct. 6 Rossi test
Joe Catania wrote: I suggest you accept my treatment was theoretical. Rossi should comply, not me. Rossi set up two meters, a Digitmaster DM201 and a Mastech MS2102. You are saying you know a "theoretical" way to fool both of them, simultaneously, with some sort of external signal generator or electrical waveform. If you are not willing to do an experiment proving this claim of yours, I think you should at least explain your theory here. Otherwise, why should anyone believe that you actually know how to do this? Rossi has already done a credible measurement of input amperage. I would have preferred a wattmeter and something like a battery backup, but using two separate meters does reduce the likelihood of error. I do not know much about these meters but it seems to me that an external signal generator is unlikely to affect both of them the same way simultaneously. It seems to me that you are now making a claim contrary to conventional knowledge, so you should back it up if you want people to take you seriously. The ball is in your court. I was being flippant before but I mean that seriously. A skeptical assertion dismissing evidence does not get a free pass. You have to prove your point just as Rossi must prove his. - Jed