If Steorn was operating a scam, why have they not been charged?


Harry

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Mary Yugo <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nice to see the web site is registered to Rossi but what the heck does
>> the validity of the E-Cat have to do with the software that was used to
>> create the web site or who the web site was created by or who it is
>> administered by?
>>
>
> I agree, very little.  But it's unlikely that a prosperous and
> sophisticated company would do it that way, that's all.
>
>
>> I suggest the sales and payment conditions has just totally taken the
>> wind out of the sails of all the scam / fraud group.
>>
>
> Oh, Gee!  Not at all.  A common form of scam is to take money somewhere
> near the start from secret investors who sign an NDA so they can't talk or
> write on public forums.  The NDA is usually extremely broad in scope and if
> someone hints at breaking it, all sorts of threats of law suits begin.
>
> Meanwhile, the perpetrators buy an ad or two or do a web page or other
> introduction, have news releases and press conferences, and announce a new
> company that promises all sorts of wonders.  They usually have some sort of
> photo op and maybe a carefully contrived demonstration that believers can
> sop up but which really proves nothing.   The next step is to announce that
> a lot of the proceeds will go to charity.  Blogs sprout up praising the
> device and fantasizing what will happen in the future when it is widely
> adopted.  Skeptics are scorned and insulted and eventually banned from
> enthusiast sites.    Then, the scammer says they won't be taking investment
> money now.  Maybe in the future they'll go public but they're doing this
> "on their own".  The secret investors aren't mentioned and they can't say a
> peep due to their NDA.  They also don't want to jeopardize success and
> future profits.  Some are simply too embarrassed to speak.
>
> Customers are announced but somehow they're never produced.  Test are
> declined if they're too definitive.  Hey, they'd reveal too many trade
> secrets.  Patents?  "Sometimes it's no, sometimes it's yes, it just
> couldn't matter less" (from Gigi, 1958, IMDB).
>
> Along the way, more secret investors may be picked up.  The investment
> amount can get really large -- Steorn so far has been $21 million Euros.
> The money is spent or squirreled away.  It can go on for years with no
> product, no proper testing and no customers who can verify that the product
> is real.
>
> That's the quick version.  Is that what Rossi is?  In my mind, he fits the
> script but he's more daring about demos than most  --but who knows?  The
> more time goes by between the customer announcement and some credible souls
> vouching for a bona fide sale and of course a proper test -- the longer it
> takes, the more likely it's a scam.  Nine months and counting now.
>
> You think people are too sophisticated to give money to scammers?  You
> must read different news articles than I do.
>
>
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