Am 04.12.2011 00:29, schrieb Horace Heffner:

On Dec 3, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Peter Heckert wrote:

Am 04.12.2011 00:01, schrieb Peter Heckert:

I dont believe, he used this for the water thread experiment.
This needs more current.
I tried with deionized water, but my supply was too week. It should deliver about 100µA. Its a TV split diode flyback transformer driven by a selfbuild electronics.

He writes here, he did not do the experiment himself:
http://amasci.com/freenrg/wasser.html


Again, you confuse this with Bill Beaty's experiments. They are related but not identical at all. Very different linear range, thread diameter, and currents.
I cannot find a water thread experiment made by him.
Here is an water thread experiment with a closeup macro video: http://youtu.be/iC8KDYcdiUI It can be seen, there is a fast flow and some turbulence inside the water thread.
It is a dynamic equilibrium and not an static equilibrium.

Of course for air experiments there is not much power required and I have seen and admired Bill Beatys experiments before. And yes, he is right, there are threads in air. He demonstated this very well and it impressed me.
Again, this are dynamic flowing threads, not static threads.
And if the flow is fast enough there can be a local µm sized vacuum at the needles tip.
This is what I tryed to explain.....

Peter






Lets assume the electrical resistance of the water thread is some megaohm. Then the current at 10 kV is some milliampere and the required power is in the 50 to 100 Watt range. I have read everything about this sometime ago and calculated the expected resistance.
A resistance from some ten MegOhms upto 1 Gigaohm must be expected
It cannot work if the water does not conduct, because in this case the electric field does not propagate over the thread. Also there is a steady water flow from one glass into the other, caused by the current. Without this it does not work. There are many videos, in some it is visible, that the water thread is hot.
The experiment is fun, but I dont think it is a water anomaly.

Peter

Sigh.

There was a huge amount of discussion of this on vortex-l. Is see no reason to repeat it.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





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