On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I calibrated the thermocouple in a pot of boiling water before the test
> and it was 99.6 deg C. That’s all you need to know. It’s in the report.
>

The temperatures +/- a degree or two within boiling are not informative.
The flat temperature indicates pretty clearly that it is at the boiling
point. Measuring temperature in a pot of boiling water is not very reliable
way to get the bp, considering it is only boiling near the element, and
there will be gradients in the water, even if it is rolling.

>
> The higher temperature might as well be due to a slightly increased
> pressure inside the Ecat
>

Right, this is necessary to ensure the flow of water plus steam to the
output.

>
> - Still you have to account for the water that didn’t end up in the
> bucket. The theory of fog travelling 3 meter in the hose, exit the hose
> under water and make it to the surface, and still remaining fog, seems pure
> fantasy.
>

That appears to be a consensus around here, but I'm not convinced. If the
steam can survive the trip down the hose and through the water, then I
don't see why fog suspended or entrained in the steam wouldn't also
survive, or at least half of it. The steam flow rate just didn't seem to be
enough to represent one L/s, in spite of the fact that there is a good
chance that Rossi goosed the power in the other room just as Lewan was
inspecting the hose. So, whether the pail got bumped, or whether a mist got
transported, it looks to me like pure fantasy that the output shown in the
video represents enough steam to account for the missing water.

And of course you know that most people regard the idea of radiationless
nuclear reactions in H-Ni to produce enough heat to vaporize the water as
even purer fantasy.

So the mist theory is the lesser of the fantasies.

It's just a shame that we have to try to interpret these demos based on
such indirect observations, when direct and relevant measurements would
have been very easy. And still would be. Rossi could resolve the issue if
he wanted to. So it seems likely that he doesn't want to.

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