On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Vorl Bek <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's OK. To the degree I can follow this, I agree with him
> rather than you or the other optimists here.

Then what is the reason for your presence on this list?  To turn
optimism into pessimism?  To "fix" those optimists?

T

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