On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Zell, Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Defective analogy.  The cars for sale are real and functional, aren't
> they? Even if the business is dishonest.
>

Sorry, I miss your point.  I was noting that Jed would likely not buy from
someone convicted multiple times of fraud but he's buying the claims from
Rossi who has been similarly convicted and who, by Jed's own admission,
lies all the time.  How is that a defective analogy exactly?  The cars may
be real and even functional but because there are many fraudulent ways to
make a car appear newer and more functional than it is, it would be unwise
to trust a used car dealer who has been previously convicted of "doctoring"
his odometers or cars or whatever.

Perhaps you haven't shopped for a used car.  Not to get too far off on a
tangent like Jed likes to, you should try to visit a "chop shop".  In one
not far from where I live, you can peek into cracks in the tall fence and
watch sweaty grubby people who look like they live on the street,
assembling vehicles from scraps and chunks of other (wrecked) vehicles.
When they're done, they just shove stray and excess parts and wiring
harnesses anywhere they can.  Then, the misaligned and dangerous,
unreliable messes that result are given Mexican upholstery and a meticulous
paint job,  and sold to unwary people at discounts, usually masquerading as
"private" sales to avoid having to provide a "salvage title".  I realize
this may not mean much to our out of country friends-- it applies to the
Southwestern US mainly but I bet the principle applies widely.

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