I appreciate the interesting responses to my questions Xavier.  From the 
information you supplied I draw a conclusion that there is nothing spectacular 
occurring with the nano particles.  Their behavior appears to more or less 
mimic that of spheres of conductive material that have merely been shrunken in 
size so that they interact with visible and near visible wavelength radiation.  
I do find the delayed decay(100 u sec?) into photons or heat interesting at 
visible wavelengths.  And please post further information about the 80 nm 
transition if you happen to recall later what transpired.

Dave 



-----Original Message-----
From: Xavier Luminous <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:nanoparticles in LENR


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 5:57 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:
 Interesting information Xavier.  The high Q nature of the resonances
 suggests that the circulating plasmon currents may not be subject to
 significant resistive losses.  Is it possible that these currents are
 flowing within a super conductive structure?
I personally wouldn't call plasmonic resonances "high Q", but I guess
t depends on who you ask... they're many orders of magnitude less
han a whispering gallery or fabry perot resonances.
As for superconductivity, there's none of that going on.  A plasmon is
 quantized oscillation of free charge on the surface of a metal. This
orks the same way as signals in any electronic circuit: the electrons
hemselves aren't moving (except for a very slow drift velocity), but
hey transfer EMF at (nearly) the speed of light.  I should also say
hat plasmons are polaritions in that they are coupled with the photon
hat creates them.  I'm not so familiar with spheres themselves, but I
now that on, for example, a flat silver film the 1/e lifetime of a
lasmon is something like 100um, at which point it will either decay
ack into a photon or be absorbed as heat (resistive losses).
> I would expect large spheres
 of these types of material to be subject to standard resistive losses that
 would broaden any resonance that appears due to size and shape.  Are you
 aware of any transition effects that occur as the size of the particle is
 reduced?
Yes... argh but I can't remember.  A couple of weeks ago I attended a
ecture about gold nanoparticles and I remember something significant
appening around 80nm, but I can't say more.  Basically since the
lasmon is confined to the 2D surface of the sphere there are certain
igenmodes which can be excited.  But at this point I don't think you
an think of their behavior in the context of standard resistive
osses.  If you look up pictures of metal nanoparticles in suspension
ou can see that their size gives you different colors.
> An example would be the appearance of  highly sharpened spectral
 line resonances which shows up as the size of the nanoparticle is
 significantly reduced.  An effect like this would imply that the atoms
 within the nano sized structure are acting in a manner somewhat as a high
 temperature condensate.
Plasmons are oscillations of *free* electrons, which aren't bound to
he atom.  So no condensate here.  Actually, for a condensate you need
eutral atoms like Rubidium or Cesium.
> Can anyone compare the line resonances seen in the nanoparticles to the line
 resonances associated with atomic responses?  I am particularly curious
 about the bandwidth of the resonances about their center frequencies.
Just throwing out numbers here... your run of the mill HeNe has a
inewidth in the GHz, and that's assocated with an atomic transition.
hat's pretty big, but you can buy single mode atomic CW sources that
re in the neighborhood of kHz.  This is much sharper than
anoparticles, which I think are all in the tens of THz

> Also, it would be interesting to see if the individual nano scale plasmon
> resonances would magnetically couple and thus share energy.

 I've seen this with nanorod arrays, where plasmon resonance couple to
 each other, but I'm pretty sure it's not magnetic coupling (plasmons
 are TM waves).

> In the same
> line of thought, would this form of coupling tend to smooth out what would
> otherwise be very precise energy levels?

 I think you still get very sharp linewidths, even with coupling.

> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Gluck <[email protected]>
> To: VORTEX <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 22, 2012 6:34 am
> Subject: [Vo]:nanoparticles in LENR
>
> Quantum Plasmons Demonstrated in Atomic-Scale Nanoparticles
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120321143017.htm
>
> This can be important for LENR
>
> Peter
>
> PS I cannot solve my  "Chrome kills hyperlinks" problem- very bad
> for my blog, I can only by-pass it by using Internet Explorer
> Do you have some experience with it?
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>


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