*This isn't LENR. Get that straight. If this is real, it's hot fusion, which is precisely why it is so dangerous. Bubble fusion creates very high temperatures in the collapse of the bubbles, and there have been reports of energetic neutrons from bubble fusion, which remain controversial. (Normally, the known temperatures of bubble collapse are still below the temperatures needed for hot fusion.)*
For the sake of argument, assuming the information we get from LeClair was true, his process cannot be hot fusion. Let us look at this question from the perspective of astrophysics. He talks about transmuting heavy elements far beyond the atomic number of iron. This is beyond the heat range of fusion reactions produced inside the hottest stars even during their last frantic seconds of collapse into a supernova were iron sinks to the heart of a stars center in milliseconds. Only the fusion of a supernova can produce transuranics and rare earth elements. Therefore, since LeClair is still alive and kicking here on earth, any heavy element transmutation reaction he saw (if any) must by necessity of his continued existence be cold fusion. Regards: axil On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>wrote: > At 12:45 AM 3/28/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote: > > >> Von: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> >> An: [email protected] >> Gesendet: 1:22 Mittwoch, 28.März 2012 >> Betreff: Re: [Vo]:the desktop supernova >> >> >Ed Storms wrote to me: "I did not confirm transmutation. In fact, I told >> LeClair just the opposite." >> >> >- Jed >> >> So maybe the LENR-crowd should get its act together whether there are >> transmutations or not. >> > > Maybe Mr. Wildgruber should get his contexts straight. > > Transmutation of elements occurs at quite low levels in PdD cold fusion. > There is, reported from those experiments, only one high-level > transmutation, deuterium -> helium-4, i.e., correlated with the heat (at > roughly the known yield, by whatever pathway). Tritium is found, at lower > levels, and the same with other elements. See the review by Edumund Storms, > "Status of cold fusion (2010)," Naturwissenschaften. (A preprint is hosted > on lenr-canr.org). > > It appears that Le Clair provided Storms with a sample of the material > allegedly produced by his disastrous experiments. Storms found no evidence > of transmutation in that material, but I'm not sure what tests were > performed. > > Le Clair's story is fantastic, and his explanations are even more out > there. As I've written, if Le Clair's story is true, there are huge > military implications. This is not merely a method of producing energy, and > it would make, for example, a handy nuclear trigger. Do not try this at > home. > > Le Clair did it at home, and, again, if we can believe his reports -- > which is highly questionable -- he and his partner nearly died. Or was that > last episode at the NRL in Washington? I'm not sure that the stories are > straight, but it doesn't matter. > > > (ie not only one-step production of He or Cu, but a spectrum of elements) >> Then probably it would split into two groups, (plus Randall Mills, who >> has a theory of his own). >> >> As an observer I can only say: >> There is evidence for both, or a contiunuum. >> Which worries me. >> Even good-mannered LENR seems to have some bursts of bad manner. >> How human. >> > > This isn't LENR. Get that straight. If this is real, it's hot fusion, > which is precisely why it is so dangerous. Bubble fusion creates very high > temperatures in the collapse of the bubbles, and there have been reports of > energetic neutrons from bubble fusion, which remain controversial. > (Normally, the known temperatures of bubble collapse are still below the > temperatures needed for hot fusion.) > > Le Clair is using cavitation in a particular way that might focus the > cavitation energy on a target. Le Clair is an expert on cavitation, > apparently. > > That he is openly talking about this, so long after the events in > question, is a sign that there is nothing there. The military would not try > to keep this quiet through the inefficient means of ignoring him, i.e., > trusting that everyone would think he's crazy. He has a technique which, > again, if he's not hallucinating (or lying), has more than once generated > strong nuclear effects. This was not some mild LENR effect, visible only > through instrumentation. His setup is not expensive, it's purely a matter > of knowing what to do. So, even if he's crazy as a loon, he could do it > again, he could demonstrate it, and teach it to someone else. > > No, the military would have investigated, and probably did investigate. > They'd have checked out his reports of the paramedics and the Hazmat team, > they'd have reviewed his medical records, and they'd have obtained samples > from his lab. If there was anything to this, he'd have been ordered to keep > quiet about it, the technology would have been appropriated by the > goverment, and, yes, they can do that where national security is involved. > They'd pay him, and he'd be working for them. And if he refused to > cooperate, he'd be imprisoned. And, again, yes, they can do that. > > Rossi's work is, if real, LENR. What reaction remains unclear. My position > on Rossi is that we should continue as if this is *nothing*, while > remaining open to evidence to the contrary. Independent evidence. We were > told, by Rossi, that it would all be over by last October. Is it over? > > I think not. We know practically nothing more than we did a year ago this > January. > > Rossi has refused every opportunity for a semi-independent confirmation, > not to mention full independent confirmation. His recent threat to sue > would be suing someone for stating the obvious, i.e., for drawing and > stating obvious conclusions from behavior that Rossi voluntarily engaged > in. Some of us, thinking that Rossi may have indeed found something > important, have hypothesized, to explain his bizarre behavior, that he has > deliberately created the impression of fraud, treading an edge, so that he > (1) gets publicity and then possible investment when and as he needs it, > and (2) competitors will be discouraged from trying to discover his secrets. > > What is most likely, in my opinion, is that Rossi did indeed find > something, but that the reaction is erratic and unreliable; as well, it may > not sustain well or reliably. Some of his demonstrations, then, may have > been fudged. Ni-H reactions had already been reported, but, as with almost > all cold fusion, energy production was not large, and was erratic and > replication was difficult. Rossi, under this hypothesis, had found a way to > scale up the reaction, but a lot of cold fusion work has deliberately > avoided that, keeping in mind the original Pons and Fleischmann melt-down. > What if one cell in a thousand decides to really go for it? Pons and > Fleischmann had a 1 cm. cube of palladium, largely vaporized. They never > again worked at that scale. > > Le Clair, my hypothesis, is insane. If he's not, he could demonstrate it, > by backing up from his fantastic *conclusions* and theories -- he is > generally not qualified in the field wherein he is theorizing. > > He could carefully collect what evidence he has, and, if possible, scale > *down* and reproduce the effect, with adequate precautions and controls. He > would, in this, assume that he'd get an effect, at least an order of > magnitude greater than he did, and plan accordingly, approaching the > required conditions slowly, this time with adequate instrumentation. One > bubble isn't going to kill him, though I'm not thrilled by his story of > nuclear ninja stars at relativistic speeds. > > >
