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On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Jarold McWilliams <[email protected]>wrote:

> This is a private message.  Are you the same Axil on other energy websites
> like focus fusion and thorium reactors?
>
> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
>
> *His *technique* is one that will produce, if it works, extremely high
> temperatures through bubble collapse. Absolutely, this is not cold fusion.
> That, however, would not be hot enough (I assume) to reach to "supernova"
> temperatures. To take the extremely high temperatures of bubble fusion and
> then say that because it couldn't produce supernova temperatures, it must
> be "cold fusion" is ... a reason why I don't write here much any more.*
>
>
> I really don’t want to discourage you from posting here. Your posts here
> are of great value. I feel your 2010 post on LeClair was your best work.
> Please continue your great work here.
>
>
> Please check my logic…
>
>
> Let’s first define some terms. A fission bomb is the trigger of a fusion
> bomb. When the fission bomb is detonated, gamma and X-rays emitted first
> symmetrically compress the fusion fuel, and then heat it to thermonuclear
> temperatures. The ensuing fusion reaction of light elements creates
> enormous numbers of high-speed neutrons, which can then induce fission in
> materials not normally prone to it, such as depleted uranium. Each of these
> components is known as a "stage", with the fission bomb as the "primary" or
> “trigger” and the fusion capsule as the "secondary".
>
>
> Hot Fusion of a zoo of heavy elements has never happened on earth. But if
> it did, large numbers of high speed neutrons would be created.
>
>
> There is no evidence of intense production of high speed neutrons in the
> LeClair incident. The proof is that there was no detection of residual
> radioactive isotopes by the hasmat crew that arrive just after the
> experiment to check the lab.
>
>
> Hot fusion produces neutrons with few exceptions. Since no evidence of
> their large scale production was detected, by necessity no hot fusion
> occurred.
>
>
> Cold fusion never produces neutrons because it is proton fusion. This type
> of fusion will produce only trace amounts of neutrons but they are very low
> energy and few in number.
>
>
> If large scale transmutation occurred, then cold fusion can be the only
> possible explanation consistent with the evidence.
>
>
> Furthermore, Cold fusion cannot be configured to produce a compressive
> field of gamma and x-rays required for a nuclear trigger.
>
> Regards: axil
> * * * *
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> At 01:34 PM 3/28/2012, Guenter Wildgruber wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand we are confronted with the situation that anybody, who
>>> thinks LENR could be real, is easily located in the mental asylum.
>>>
>>
>> Did you read that review I cited? Storms, "Status of cold fusion (2010)."
>> I assure you that Dr. Storms is not "in the mental asylum," nor are the
>> reviewers for Naturwissenschaften, which is the "flagship multidisciplinary
>> journal" of Springer-Verlag, one of the largest scientific publishers in
>> the world. Mainstream. Not a "fringe" journal.
>>
>>  So which criteria do we have to decide?
>>> Articles authorized and put into 'truth-status' by Peer-reviewed
>>> journals?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. (But "truth-status" doesn't exist.) To do more than that requires a
>> deep understanding of the field.
>>
>> The reputation of cold fusion is that "it could not be replicated."
>> That's utterly inconsistent with what has been published in the
>> peer-reviewed mainstream press, not to mention thousands of conference
>> papers (which, individually, aren't particularly reliable, quality varies
>> greatly, but much sound work has expeditiously been published this way; and
>> you can tell, to some degree by what is later cited in peer-reviewed
>> sources).
>>
>>  Experiments? Which maybe faulty. Conducted by idiots with two left hands.
>>>
>>
>> Got any in mind? The "faulty" experiment is one that was not completely
>> reported. Experiments often leave much to be desired, requiring more work.
>> Others criticism them because they didn't do this or that, but often they
>> are simply doing what they can. In hindsight, there is almost always
>> something left out.
>>
>>  Corporate and other scammers, who make a cheap profit on -ahem-
>>> con-fusion?
>>>
>>
>> Not common. Rossi is a possibility. Defkalion, less likely but still
>> quite possible. Commercial interests aren't "scientists," though they might
>> employ some. We have no "science" on Rossi, nothing reported according to
>> the protocols of science. Rossi himself dismissed the very concept of a
>> control experiment. Why should he run a control: he knows, he thinks, what
>> he will see with a control: nothing.
>>
>> But anyone who knows science knows the importance of controls. Rossi
>> dumps X energy into his system. How much steam can you make with X energy?
>> Some, it appears. How much steadm was actually generated? Well, not exactly
>> measured, because .... and on and on.
>>
>>  Posters on an imaginary stage?
>>>
>>> Everything is possible and has to be weighed by common sense, which
>>> seems to be a rare feature nowadays.
>>>
>>> I tried to involve as much common sense as possible, as everybody in
>>> this list tries.
>>>
>>> I have come to some  preliminary conclusions or hypotheses, which worry
>>> me, I must confess.
>>>
>>
>> That means nothing if you aren't specific.
>>
>>  And i hope, that the very insightful people in this list give me
>>> indications, where I err.
>>> Your comment is very much appreciated, to be sure.
>>> Fodder for thinking. what more can I ask for?
>>>
>>> best regards anyway
>>>
>>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>> The point here was that Le Claire is not claiming cold fusion (though he
>> has claimed that "cold fusion" is really his effect -- but his effect is
>> obviously, if real, hot fusion, plain old thermonuclear fusion, very
>> dangerous unless the levels are super-low, as they are with, for example,
>> piezo-electric devices that are used to generate neutrons by fusing a
>> little deuterium.
>>
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