The hard part is making the coulomb barrier go away; after that the fusion is easy.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I also suspect that the reaction is a bit more complex than a single > hydrogen fusion. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 9:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic? > > There are a number of assumptions at issue in this tread that I would > like to counter. I believe that a cooper pair of Protons fuses with the > nickel nucleus. The reaction products of this type fusion are listed in the > Kim paper > http://www.physics.purdue.edu/people/faculty/yekim/BECNF-Ni-Hydrogen.pdf > The cooper pair of protons speculation assumes a superconductive surface > on the nano nickel powder which must be hot at 4ooC to thermalize the gamma > radiation from the fusion reaction. His thermalization is done by averaging > the gamma ray energy over N coherent atoms(thermal energy value = gamma > energy/N). > The coulomb barrier is greatly lowered by Rossi’s catalyst (aka secret > sauce). Penetration of this greatly weakened or nonexistent barrier > consumes no reaction energy. > Cheers: Axil > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:27 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: > >> I just reviewed the wikipedia article on stars. They support the idea >> that iron is the last element that can be fused before the process becomes >> endothermic. It is an interesting read and I should be kicked in the rear >> for not reading it before asking my question. Of course they might not be >> entirely accurate as is sometimes the case, but on this occasion my >> calculations and their article suggests otherwise. >> >> As I write this I am wondering if the wikipedia model assumes iron fusing >> with iron versus iron fusing with hydrogen. I guess I should pursue this a >> bit further to see what the implications are if both of the reactants are >> iron. >> >> I appreciate the inputs that have been presented and I will think about >> them carefully as I try to understand the issue. >> >> Dave >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:53 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic? >> >> That idea crossed my mind but I still do not know where the 5.6 MeV of >> energy imparted upon the proton wound up. If the path were exothermic I >> would expect to be able to recover(or at least locate) all of the 5.6 MeV >> as well as some extra energy. >> >> I recall reading an article years ago that suggested that fusion energy >> was possible within stars until the final product was iron. The star would >> then collapse under the influence of gravity due to the lack of extra >> heat. Could this be the effect that I am calculating? It does seem to add >> up in the numbers. >> >> Dave >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> >> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:22 pm >> Subject: RE: [Vo]: Proton Fusion Ni58 to Cu59 Endothermic? >> >> Are you discounting QM and quantum tunneling? >> >> One could say that the in tunneling - threshold energy is briefly "* >> borrowed*" and then a short time later, the "debt" is repaid – before >> the net gain is obvious. >> >> >> *From:* David Roberson >> >> Could you help me understand how the 5.6 MeV is recovered or >> released? Is there extra energy released into the copper crystal >> structure that equals this magnitude? I am having a difficult time trying >> to get back the 5.6 MeV to make the next proton energetic enough for the >> next reaction. Forgive me for being ignorant about this mechanism, but it >> truly is difficult to visualize. >> >> >> > >
