Jojo, you are entitled to your opinions of the parties involved in this shaky 
afair.  I feel that DGT should be given a bit of respect since they seem to 
have moved forward a major distance in their design .  Do you feel that you 
stole Rossi's design and are just making improvements upon what he has 
initiated?  I believe that most important discoveries of the past have been 
followed closely by new patents offering improvements that make the final 
device more useful.

Of course we all know that Rossi himself is standing upon the shoulders of all 
of those before him as the saying goes.  I believe that Rossi deserves to make 
a modest fortune for his championship of the LENR field in the recent past and 
it is important to reward him and others who have worked so hard to bring 
forward this important technology that is so world changing.  I do not believe 
that these people deserve to have total control over the fortunes of the rest 
of mankind by defeating the competition with legal authority.  Let competition 
determine their rewards to the major extent and may the best products prevail.

DGT is not a company of crooks as far as I can determine.  Neither is Rossi or 
the other researchers trying to cash in on these products.  We should reserve 
judgement until the facts become clear and they are entitled to that level of 
respect.  Later, we might agree to hold them in contempt, but for now lets 
cheer them on.

Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jojo Jaro <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2012 10:15 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:principles of DGTG 's technology


Peter, when someone has a technology that is as revolutionary as 
Commercial-level LENR as DGT has, they cease to have this implied protection 
anymore.
 
LENR is a symbol and icon of hope for many many people.  DGT has a social and 
ethical responsibility to address people's concern about it.  If DGT does not 
feel it is their responsibility; then they should stop danggling a carrot in 
front of a hungry world.  A world hungry for LENR technology.  It is cruel and 
unethical to danggle food in front of hungry orphans.  A sane and reasonable 
man would not do this, and yet both DGT and Rossi feel that this is their 
right.  If they do not want to have to explain their technology, then stop 
teasing people with it.  DGT and Rossi has been the recipient of people's ire 
because of this.
 
And you, having participated in this, will receive people's ire.  You can not 
do this and expect people would reciprocate you with respect.  You get what 
your actions dictate; the same respect one gets when one danggle food in front 
of hungry orphans.
 
I stand by my original assessement.  DGT is a company of crooks headed by a 
person who practically admitted to stealing another's IP and come out with a 
straight face.  Unbelievable how you think this company deserves our continuing 
adoration and attention.
 
 
Jojo
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Peter Gluck 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:principles of DGTG 's technology


Dear Steven, 


This could be significant only if DGTG is in some trouble, however they will 
demonstrate their Hyperions, get them on the market and that's all. Almost 
equally interesting is their
contribution to understanding of LENR
Then they will publish more data, independent ones included.
Their strategy is their strategy and that's not a tautology.
Their responsibility is not toward people who are just curious
and unpatient. 
Peter


On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Mainly their own data, but why are you asking- do you think only independent
> data = good? DGTG has reciprocal NDA with independent observers.
> in the next paper you will receive these data- I also have a very strict NDA
> with them.


Hi Peter,

I assume the biggest complaint that will be raised on this matter is
the fact that not having at our disposal sufficient "independent data"
to collaborate Defkalion's claims reduces the authenticity of such
claims.

Skeptics will immediately focus on such issues, as is their right to do so.

If we don't have "independent data" how do we go about assessing the
merits of whether Defkalion's claims are accurate?

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks







-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck 
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com



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