Hi Jojo,

You might also read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_programming  and
some of the related links.

Colin

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> Amino Acids are just the building blocks, the letters of the alphabet for
> building complex protein molecules.  You have to chain them correctly in
> the proper sequence to get even the simplest protein of 50 animo acids.
> The chances of this occuring randomly is staggering in its own right, let
> alone come up with 300-500 of these proteins to come up with the simplest
> self-replicating life.
>
> Having amino acids is a far cry from the simplest protein and definitely a
> far far far cry to the simplest life form.  It's like saying since we found
> the letters A - Z, the novel "Romeo and Juliet" can be easily found also.
>
> I have read your wikipedia articles, and I am suitably "impressed" by the
> level of its scholarship and integrity.
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Colin Hercus <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Fallacis of Darwinian Evolution - Genetic
> Improbability
>
> Hi Jojo,
>
> I'd hate to say I read it on Wikipedia, but there's also more scientific
> sources than that. I'm not about to go do the research for you, I suggest
> you check it out yourself. Abiogenesis is a problem and scientists are
> working on it. That's a lot of why we looking for life on other planets,
> other solar systems and in extreme environments on earth.  Amino acids have
> been found in comet tails, they're really not that complicated.
>
> Colin
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> You don't know that.  But even if it was, that still does not solve your
>> abiogenesis problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Colin Hercus <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2012 1:40 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The Fallacis of Darwinian Evolution - Genetic
>> Improbability
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Jojo Jaro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Abd, I appreciate your comments.
>>>
>>> After reading your post below and rereading it and rereading it several
>>> times, I am still at a lost on what you are contending.  Please restate
>>> your contentions in simpler prose that dumb people like me can understand.
>>>
>>> Yes, While we know that amino acids can be created from non-life simple
>>> hydrocarbons, the conditions do not match known earth atmospheric
>>> conditions.  I believe you are alluding to the Urey-Miller experiment where
>>> they successfully created amino acids from base molecular H20 and some
>>> simple hydrocarbons.  But one thing you need to realize, it never created
>>> any self-replicating molecules, it never create any "life"
>>>
>>> The Urey-Miller experiment was successful but did not simulate the
>>> correct conditions.  For one, it was performed on a "Reducing" Atmosphere
>>> of hydrocarbon gases, not the oxidative atmosphere with oxygen.  When the
>>> experiment was redone with oxygen, the oxidizing action of oxygen destroyed
>>> the animo acids just as quickly as it was created.  Hence, the experiment
>>> was designed on top of faulty assumptions.
>>>
>> No, the earths atmosphere was reducing before we had photo synthesis
>>
>>
>

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