I don’t think that a screened proton (no charge) has less mass ( aka
energy) as the unscreened proton.

Two screened protons or electrons will attract each other.


On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:07 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is an informative discussion.  I think that sometimes we group the
> coulomb barrier energy with the energy associated with the strong force
> once the proton in inside the nucleus.  Once I tried to see if they were
> separate and could find no reason that this would be true.  I think that
> both types of forces result in a change to the mass of the nucleus.
>
> Dave
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: mixent <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2012 11:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:the Coil
>
>  In reply to  Axil Axil's message of Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:37:00 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >*“This is clearly not true. If it were then hot fusion wouldn't work, and
> >there*
> >* *
> >
> >*would be no Sun. It takes less energy to get in than it takes to get out.*
> >* *
> >
> >*The difference between the two is the net energy of the reaction.”*
> >
> >I said:  “The coulomb barrier is symmetric. It takes as much energy to
> >leave the nucleus as it takes to get in.”
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_decay
>
> Radioactive nuclei are in an excited state (i.e. above ground state) by
> definition. That's the reason they are radioactive.
> The ground state of e.g. 4He is way below that of 2 D's hence it's 
> energetically
> favourable for 2 D's to combine and form 4He.
>
> In the radioactive case, it's easier to get out than to get in. In the case of
> two D's it's easier to get in than to get out. So my statement about it being
> easier to get in than to get out was too  broad, as it only applies to fusion
> reactions. It's the other way around for fission reactions. However in neither
> case is the Coulomb barrier symmetric.
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

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