I thought there was something special about the anomalous lack of warming so I was prepared to take the Papp engine seriously. However, if the anomaly can be explained, according to Robin, by the change in the number particles in the chamber due to ioniation/de-ionization ( as per the ideal gas law PV = nRT) then I suspect the rest is smoke and mirrors as far energy production goes.
On the other hand Mckubre seems to know more, but has he also signed one those NDAs ? harry On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > I suspect that motion of the piston is driven by electromagnetic forces > instead of heated gas. Of course, I am not sure that the device works at > all. > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Chemical Engineer <cheme...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 4:00 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:the Coil > > Correct, no reaction therefore nothing to expand the gas and drive the > piston > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> does that mean the piston does not move? >> Harry >> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Removing the coil disables the Papp reaction. >> > >> > >> > >> > Cheers: Axil >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Harry Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> sorry if this has already been discussed, but does the papp engine >> >> heat up if the coil is removed? >> >> >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:37 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:34:44 -0400: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > [snip] >> >> >>(*C12* is C12 in an excited state - it has an additional 15.96 MeV >> >> >> that >> >> >> it* >> >> >>* * >> >> >> >> >> >>*desperately wants to get rid of)* >> >> >> >> >> >>This is only true when the coulomb barrier is up at full strength. >> >> >> But >> >> >> when >> >> >>the coulomb barrier is completely down, protons behave like neutrons. >> >> >> They >> >> >>can exit the nucleus with no energy penalty. >> >> >> >> >> >>I explain this in the thread “the bumpy road.” >> >> > >> >> > If there were no energy penalty to protons (or neutrons) leaving the >> >> > nucleus, >> >> > then the nucleus would fall apart. This doesn't happen. >> >> > >> >> > BTW the Coulomb barrier is partially a misnomer. It's a Coulomb >> >> > barrier >> >> > for >> >> > positively charged particles trying to enter the nucleus, but >> >> > actually a >> >> > nuclear >> >> > binding force barrier for particles trying to leave the nucleus. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > Robin van Spaandonk >> >> > >> >> > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >
