Magnetic forces work on conductive media. The majority of the time the noble gasses are not in a conductive state.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > *The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement* > > > > I was under the impression that the coils were active all the time. Did > someone tell you something different? > > > > Cheers: Axil > > > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A correct statement might be that "John Rohner uses magnetic confinement >> to keep the helium located axially at the center of the cylinder." >> >> The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement. The only >> reason helium _might_ remain at the center of the cylinder is that, being >> of lower molecular weight, it is more easily driven to the center during >> the brief periods of axial confinement and, once there, the deionized state >> helium atoms will have to diffuse outward toward the edges. >> >> However, even this hope is unlikely to be true since during the >> compression stroke the helium gas is undergoing turbulence and therefore is >> likely highly mixed with the consequent migration to the edges of the >> cylinder. >> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> John Rohner uses magnetic confinement to keep the noble gas located >>> axially at the center of the cylinder. This might keep the gases away from >>> the edge of the piston. >>> >>> >>> >>> What this might mean is that the gas is well contained while the engine >>> is running. The coil provides a cylinder within the cylinder. But >>> while the engine is off, the gas may find a path around the rings and may >>> need a recharge. >>> >>> >>> This means that the engine must run continually. Rohner does not seem to >>> be much concerned about the rings. He said he will replace the two ring >>> system with a single ring in the final product. >>> >>> >>> Cheers: Axil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Michael Foster <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I really want to believe these guys are for real in their revival of >>>> the Papp engine. If it works, it's >>>> certainly more compelling than getting heat from LENR. One thing >>>> bothers me in watching the >>>> video of the engine assembly. The piston rings are rubber O-rings. >>>> There's no way in hell that >>>> the helium in the noble gas mixture will stay in the cylinder for an >>>> appreciable length of time. >>>> Helium is notoriously fugitive and will escape from virtuall any >>>> container not made of solid glass >>>> or metal. O-rings just aren't going to work in their engine unless the >>>> noble gas mixture can be >>>> replenished frequently. >>>> -----------------------------q >>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 3:18 AM PDT Chemical Engineer wrote: >>>> >>>> >At 2:30 of this video they mention aligning the holes shown machined >>>> on the >>>> >outside of each cylinder to the top for access to the coils for wiring, >>>> >etc. I believe they mount a circuit board for each cylinder atop/near >>>> >each hole to access the coils to supply control power. >>>> > >>>> >They do not show the coils inside and i am not sure how they seal it >>>> all >>>> >up. Another video shows the compression coil directly around the >>>> target >>>> >spot of the plugs. A containment coil is supposedly around the rest >>>> of the >>>> >piston. >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> ProdEngAssemble.avi< >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqFgM8osjLE&feature=youtube_gdata_player >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Sent from my iPad >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
