*The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement*


I was under the impression that the coils were active all the time. Did
someone tell you something different?



Cheers:   Axil


On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:32 PM, James Bowery <[email protected]> wrote:

> A correct statement might be that "John Rohner uses magnetic confinement
> to keep the helium located axially at the center of the cylinder."
>
> The majority of the time there is no magnetic confinement. The only reason
> helium _might_ remain at the center of the cylinder is that, being of lower
> molecular weight, it is more easily driven to the center during the brief
> periods of axial confinement and, once there, the deionized state helium
> atoms will have to diffuse outward toward the edges.
>
> However, even this hope is unlikely to be true since during the
> compression stroke the helium gas is undergoing turbulence and therefore is
> likely highly mixed with the consequent migration to the edges of the
> cylinder.
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  John Rohner uses magnetic confinement to keep the noble gas located
>> axially at the center of the cylinder. This might keep the gases away from
>> the edge of the piston.
>>
>>
>>
>> What this might mean is that the gas is well contained while the engine
>> is running. The coil provides a cylinder within the cylinder.  But while
>> the engine is off, the gas may find a path around the rings and may need a
>> recharge.
>>
>>
>> This means that the engine must run continually. Rohner does not seem to
>> be much concerned about the rings. He said he will replace the two ring
>> system with a single ring in the final product.
>>
>>
>> Cheers:   Axil
>>
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>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Michael Foster <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I really want to believe these guys are for real in their revival of the
>>> Papp engine. If it works, it's
>>> certainly more compelling than getting heat from LENR.  One thing
>>> bothers me in watching the
>>> video of the engine assembly. The piston rings are rubber O-rings.
>>> There's no way in hell that
>>> the helium in the noble gas mixture will stay in the cylinder for an
>>> appreciable length of time.
>>> Helium is notoriously fugitive and will escape from virtuall any
>>> container not made of solid glass
>>> or metal. O-rings just aren't going to work in their engine unless the
>>> noble gas mixture can be
>>> replenished frequently.
>>> -----------------------------q
>>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 3:18 AM PDT Chemical Engineer wrote:
>>>
>>> >At 2:30 of this video they mention aligning the holes shown machined on
>>> the
>>> >outside of each cylinder to the top for access to the coils for wiring,
>>> >etc.  I believe they mount  a circuit board for each cylinder atop/near
>>> >each hole to  access the coils to supply control power.
>>> >
>>> >They do not show the coils inside and i am not sure how they seal it all
>>> >up.  Another video shows the compression coil directly around the target
>>> >spot of the plugs.  A containment coil is supposedly around the rest of
>>> the
>>> >piston.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> ProdEngAssemble.avi<
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqFgM8osjLE&feature=youtube_gdata_player>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPad
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>
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