Thanks for the link. I saw it once then lost the location. One thing I notice is that this only happens when he uses a coil built to his interpretation of the original Papp design. Also, grounding the coil did not stop the strange heating effect.
It was stated that the device needed the coil to be at the gap region and with current flowing in order to initiate the activity. He suggested that there was .5 volts across the coil when grounded. I assume that he broke the ground and then connected some form of meter across the turns. I suspect that this reading was not accurate and most likely external noise or possibly RF interference to his meter. Without making the measurements myself, I can only be skeptical as to the actual effects. The fact that one coil has the effect and another does not suggests that there is some form of resonance associated with the coil winding technique. It could be that the frequency at which this interaction takes place is beyond his measurement capacity. Coils have strange high frequency resonance due to distributed capacitance variation with winding and placement of the turns. No two coils are exactly alike at these high frequency effects especially if there is no special care given to achieve mechanical matching. Grounding of the two coil terminals could be of little consideration regarding extremely high frequency interactions since stray capacity could easily short out the terminals with respect to the frequency of importance. Many of the effects described suggest that this behavior is at an extremely high frequency and involves a coupling mechanism between the ions of the gas mixture and a uncontrolled resonance of the coil. The fact that the coil gets very hot implies an energy source of good power capacity. Since the effect continues without additional drive and light emission until the fuel has leaked out, I would be inclined to expect that some LENR process is at work. This particular process appears to involve a resonance of the coil and energy release by ions of nobel gasses. These two phenomena appear coupled electromagentically in a positive feedback arrangement. By this I mean that when extra energy is released by the ion cloud trapped within the electromagnetic field generated by currents within the coil a process occurs that tends to increase or decrease the field. That change in field then modifies the behavior of the active gas such that it emits additional energy. As I wrote before, this behavior is extremely important if it occurs as described. We would be amiss if we allowed such a process to escape detailed investigation. I would be willing to devote some of my time to follow up on this system since the possible applications are immense. Does anyone else feel as I do about the significance of this discovery? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chemical Engineer <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 12:36 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: ProdEngAssemble.avi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF7HVi5OVIc On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: It is too bad that they did not show placement of the coils in this video. One thing to notice is that the cylinders are made of aluminum which will allow the steady state magnetic fields due to DC through the coils free access to the interior. The highly conductive cylinder walls would behave as a low pass filter that should prevent any high frequency coupling between the ions inside it and the coil outside. Every demonstration that I have seen suggests that the power pulse occurs very quickly. If this is indeed the situation then for all intents and purposes the magnetic field due to the coil is constant for this period. Do you know of any videos that clearly show the coil placement for this type of engine? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chemical Engineer <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 6:25 am Subject: [Vo]:Re: ProdEngAssemble.avi At 2:30 of this video they mention aligning the holes shown machined on the outside of each cylinder to the top for access to the coils for wiring, etc. I believe they mount a circuit board for each cylinder atop/near each hole to access the coils to supply control power. They do not show the coils inside and i am not sure how they seal it all up. Another video shows the compression coil directly around the target spot of the plugs. A containment coil is supposedly around the rest of the piston. ProdEngAssemble.avi Sent from my iPad
