I am putting two and two together here. The Papp engine ash was a brown powder. J Ronner talks about a two helium atom fusion process. This type fusion does not produce energy in fusing to boron8 atoms. But all boron isotopes under B11 will decay by fission. There are two conceivable ways in which the excited state in boron-8 could decay by emitting one proton, making a brief pit stop at beryllium-7. However, one of these ways is energy forbidden and the other does not conserve isospin.
While conserving isospin is not a hard and fast rule, if there is any other way for the nucleus to decay, it will jump at that alternative. In this case the alternative, one that is both energy and isospin allowed, is to decay by emitting two protons in one step to an excited state in lithium-6, which is itself an isobaric-analog of the ground state of helium-6. Recently, this decay mode was observed for the first time by emitting two protons at the same time between isobaric analog states. To make a long story short, the fusion of 2 He atoms will possibly end up with a number of sub atomic particles and one helium atom. Another energetic path (the triple proton chain) is as follows: 1. B8 -> Be8 + positron + neutrino (followed by spontaneous decay...) 2. Be8 -> 2He4(18.074 MeV) There is some unknowns involving boron 8 decay as follows: For example, nuclei of boron-8 in the sun decay by spitting out an antielectron and an electron neutrino, and theorists can predict the number of such low-energy solar neutrinos. Researchers measured the actual number in the 1960s, counting rare events in which a chlorine nucleus in a tank of dry-cleaning fluid absorbed an electron neutrino and emitted an electron. They found only one-third as many electron neutrinos as predicted, suggesting that the particles were turning into something else during their trip from the sun to Earth. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>wrote: > Source for your info on boron? If adjusted out somehow, what is the ash > now? Does it vary with settings? Do we know? How? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 16, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Papp engine produced boron as ash, but it was grossly inefficient. J > Rohner improved the timing to eliminate the atomic pollution through > nuclear recombination. > > Cheers: Axil > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> At 05:04 PM 8/15/2012, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> The refuel process adds noble gas instead of replacing it. This >>> on-the-fly refuel means that there is no buildup of reaction ash as is >>> normal in all other LENR devices. >>> >> >> If this thing works, it doesn't sound at all like LENR. I don't see any >> basis for "nuclear." So far. >> > >
