They keep changing but here are a few of the stories...
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Feature: Electromagnetic / Buyer Beware > Magniwork >
Open letter to Clickbank regarding Magniwork scam involvement -- Warning of
possible legal action - For the past year, Magniwork and others have been using
Clickbank to sell $49 DIY plans for a device alleged to cost less than $100 in
parts and which can power a house. Clickbank continues to allow this to go on,
despite our warnings that the plans are bogus and that we've received no
evidence to support the claim. (PESN; May 24, 2010)
Electromagnetic > Magniwork >
Magniwork Energy internet scam - Internet fraudsters are raking in
thousands of dollars a day with a scam selling plans for what alleges to be an
electromagnetic free energy machine capable of powering a house. One estimate
puts sales of the guide as high as 5,000 copies a month, making the scam worth
up to $3m a year. (Off-Grid; Oct. 8, 2009) [We've not yet received a scrap of
evidence supporting the claims.]
Featured: Buyer Beware > Electromagnetic > Magniwork >
ACTION: Report Magniwork (Scam) Ads to Google and Clickbank - Easy steps
presented for you to be able to lodge a complaint about the fraudsters who are
selling plans for what alleges to be an inexpensive electromagnetic free energy
machine capable of powering a house, though no supporting evidence has been
given. Let's stop these hucksters who prey on the free energy believers and
give the field a bad name. (PESWiki; Nov. 5, 2009)
Buyer Beware > Electromagnetic > Magniwork >
Lutec Disavows Magniwork - Lutec posted the following notice on their home
page in a marquee text: [all caps] "Be Warned - 'Magniwork' is not related in
any way to Lutec Australia, doe not sell plans for our equipment and is not
authorized to use our videos on their site!" (PESWiki; Nov. 10, 2009)
Featured: Electromagnetic > Bedini SG >
Magniwork free energy plans = bogus claim; say they'll remedy that -
Magniwork has been selling a set of plans for a free energy device they say
could be scaled to power an entire house. However, it turns out that the device
is nothing more than the Bedini SG circuit, which, though interesting, has
never been embodied in a self-looped system with energy left over for practical
use. They've apologized and removed the Bedini stuff. (PESWiki; June 2, 2009)
Mark
Mark Goldes
Co-founder, Chava Energy
CEO, Aesop Institute
301A North Main Street
Sebastopol, CA 95472
www.chavaenergy.com
www.aesopinstitute.org
707 861-9070
707 497-3551 fax
________________________________________
From: James Bowery [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine
It looks very similar to the device currently under discussion in that it has a
ramp of magnets with a discontinuity at the full cycle.
Are they the same scam?
Where can one read about the "well known scam"?
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Mark Goldes
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That site is the latest version of a well known scam.
Mark Goldes
Co-founder, Chava Energy
CEO, Aesop Institute
301A North Main Street
Sebastopol, CA 95472
www.chavaenergy.com<http://www.chavaenergy.com>
www.aesopinstitute.org<http://www.aesopinstitute.org>
707 861-9070<tel:707%20861-9070>
707 497-3551<tel:707%20497-3551> fax
________________________________________
From: James Bowery [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Perpetual motion machine
The video at this site clearly shows accelleration.
http://diymagneticmotor.com/
That pretty much rules out the "low friction" argument.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Harry Veeder
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
According to standard physics, it is impossible to design a magnetic
motor that won't get stuck after a few turns. Therefore, questions
about how much was energy was needed to assemble the device distract
from the real significance of the demonstration. Either this is a hoax
OR the device is really able to overcome the sticking problem and turn
indefinitely.
harry
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:33 PM, James Bowery
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
> Has anyone tried to do any arithmetic here?
>
> I mean to even an order of magnitude?
>
> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Harry Veeder
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Assuming no hidden power sources, the assumption is the work done
>> repeatedly lifting the magnets (and the rod at the side) will
>> eventually exceed the energy required to place the magnets in their
>> starting position.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Teslaalset
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>> wrote:
>> > This stuff is quite misleading.
>> > One has to put energy in first to get the moving magnet into its
>> > starting
>> > position.
>> > So there is no energy gain.
>> >
>>
>
