Socialism has always failed because it merely replaces private sector
rent-seeking with public sector rent-seeking.

You have to disintermediate the public sector bureaucracy with a citizen's
dividend.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Jarold McWilliams <oldja...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> This economic system has already been developed.  It is called socialism,
> or what some people would call communism.  When there is no more need for
> human labor, it is obvious that governments are going to have to allocate
> resources.  Capitalism obviously won't work.
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 17:36:21 -0400
> From: jedrothw...@gmail.com
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: [Vo]:A new economic system will be needed in the next 20 to 100
> years
>
>
> OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson <svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It's my suspicion that with ensuing advancements of technology,
> automation and robotics, traditional capitalism as it is currently
> practiced will have to evolve...
>
>
> Capitalism, communism, Feudalism, mercantalism and every other economic
> system ever invented can be defined as:
>
> A system to allocate human labor, goods and services.
>
> Some of these systems have been efficient; others were inefficient. Some
> were just; others were unjust, and still others tyrannical.
>
> No economic system could exist until people achieved some level of
> agriculture and the ability to gather in villages and later towns and
> cities.
>
> Human labor is now losing value. Robots and intelligent computers are
> replacing human workers in many fields, including ones that people
> previously thought could never be done by machines. Within 20 to 100 years,
> human labor will be worthless.
>
> In the distant future, machines will supply all of the food we want. They
> will capable of supplying 10 times the food we want, or a thousand times.
> They will be capable of manufacturing a car for every driver, or 100,000
> cars for every driver, or enough cars to cover the whole surface of Mars
> with automobiles in piles 100 cars high. Material scarcity and human labor
> allocation will become distant memories, the way waterborne infectious
> disease has in first world countries. The concept of "economic justice"
> will become meaningless. The distinction between capitalism and communism
> will be meaningless, like the difference between Protestants and Catholics
> is to an atheist.
>
> As this transition occurs, all economic systems will gradually collapse.
> This is already happening. When labor is worth nothing, you cannot
> predicate your economic system on it. With the Internet we have seen the
> cost of transferring information drop so close to zero it no longer
> matters. No one bothers to account for it. As that happened, people who
> made a living selling information that was difficult to access went out of
> business. It become like selling water by the river, as the Zen proverb has
> it.
>
> Some new economic system must emerge. It will not be capitalism or
> communism. No human institution lasts forever; when we have no need for
> these things, they will vanish as surely as Feudalism did, or slavery did
> in the first world.
>
> I am confident that something new will emerge. If we can devise these
> wonderful machines capable of fulfilling all of our material needs and
> desires, surely we can also devise some practical means to allocate the
> output of the machines so that everyone can have whatever they need, if not
> everything they desire. As Romney put it, even today, people feel they are
> "entitled to health care, to food, to housing." Naturally, they feel that
> way! Since we can have these things in abundance in the first world, people
> have every right to feel that way.
>
> In the future, everyone living in every part of the solar system will take
> it for granted that they have a birthright to healthcare, food, housing,
> education, energy, internet access and much else. These things will cost
> nothing. Virtually nothing; the per capita cost to supply food, health care
> and so on will be roughly what it costs us today to supply a house with
> clean, potable water in a first-world household. That's $335 per year
> average in the U.S. Keeping track of such trivial expenses would be a waste
> of time. Collecting taxes to pay for them would be a waste of time. In any
> case, you can't collect taxes when most people do not bother to work, or
> have not need to work.
>
> Cold fusion will play a large roll in making this transition possible.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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