Capitalism is no different from socialism in its threat of violence against
those who do not agree to its terms.

The best that civilization can do is adopt a system that allows assortative
migration by people to territories occupied by mutually consenting adults
to whatever system they strongly adhere.  This is the

This allows controlled experimentation in the social sciences with
voluntary human subjects.  The twin virtues of truth and freedom are
thereby upheld to the limits allowed by civilization.

That is exactly what my system allows for.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Craig Haynie <cchayniepub...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On 10/10/2012 12:39 AM, Eric Walker wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Jouni Valkonen
> > <jounivalko...@gmail.com <mailto:jounivalko...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Perhaps if we force agriculture to skyscrapers and deserts, then
> >     there is enough room for humans to live comfortably in bungalows.
> >     So we turn the idea of city and country side upside down. That in
> >     the future humans will live in countryside, while food is produced
> >     in the cities and skyscrapers!
> >
> >
> > This is what I would like to see -- for roads to disappear from cities
> > and be replaced by walkways between buildings that are built downwards
> > for the most part rather than upwards.  The tallest buildings would
> > not be taller than three stories in most urban areas.  You could get
> > the population density needed for mass transit by building several
> > stories downwards, around open-air gardens at the bottom of a wide
> > column.  The buildings would be all but hidden by trellises and greenery.
> [...]
>
> It's nice that you have a vision; but other people have other visions;
> and unfortunately, the only way for you to achieve your vision is to
> threaten other people with violence. "Perhaps if we force agriculture to
> skyscrapers and deserts..." The only way to FORCE people to do what you
> want is through threats of violence.
>
> Socialists all have great visions of perfectly working societies. But
> all these visions are backed by guns and threats. Free Markets, however,
> are voluntarily created. Numerous solutions are offered, and consumers
> choose their solutions, independently, amongst an assortment with
> various prices guiding them to efficient solutions.
>
> There are only two fundamental ways to live and work with other people:
> one is through threats and violence (Socialism); the other is through
> voluntary cooperation (Capitalism). The answers are black and white.
>
> Craig
>
>

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