Dave,
I did not make the main point of that post clear. There certainly could be a higher gain regime - or not. But the claims of Rossi are essentially meaningless. The major point to me in the big picture - and it is way beyond coincidence. is that many good and believable reports with Ni-H-K have come in, over the years, going back to Thermacore, with COP below 2 but more than 1. I am putting these in a separate category than others which may be far better in COP but often are at lower power levels, or are less convincing... so there is also a value judgment in there. And, in general these Ni-H-K experiments seem to be the highest wattage, most robust, longest running, and most carefully done reports. Yet the gain is low. Why that should be - is worth investigating. Jones From: David Roberson If the COP were in fact limited to 1.5 at low temperature operation then it would be a valid concern that few applications would arise out of LENR devices. The evidence does not suggest that low COP operation is the only available option. I expect that proof of my assumption will soon become available. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Mark Gibbs Exactly. [mg] Jones Beene wrote: But no one is sure what how far you can go with rock solid COP of 1.5 ... in terms of a commercial item... Essentially that is Gibbs' point, no?

