John, maybe I should apply to the oil barons for money. I assure you that I am on no one's payroll at the moment. Perhaps you should consider that some people just believe differently than you on this subject. I have a strong suspicion of climate scientists now particularly after I realize that they tend to suppress the facts on many occasions if it does not match their beliefs. Maybe I was expecting too much of them; after all they are human like the rest of us.
The behavior of many of the physicists regarding LENR is deplorable and I see parallels in the global warming arena. The issue of man caused warming is much too important for us to allow this type of activity. It actually amazes me that those guys appear to be used like pawns by the politicians. I am afraid the media is also guilty in the way they seem to always suggest that global warming is responsible for every ill. I guess I should forgive them for these actions since they generally do not have a clue about much of anything. I have only spoken of what I perceive as truth on this list. All the statements have been my beliefs. I have not followed the money trail of the oil companies and do not have any idea of the amount of influence they may have over the discussions. If they are in fact working to skew the science then pox on their houses. We need honest science and there can be no substitute for that when we face such important decisions. When I reviewed the information supplied by one of the previous VP's of the US I was appalled by the lack of honesty. I don't know about your culture, but where I live it is outright lying to not mention all of the facts if you know of them and they go against your presentations to others. Many times I saw this sort of behavior in his movie about global warming. Then I found out that it is reported that he is deeply involved with the carbon credit markets. I wonder why he wants immediate action? This is not an example I would want my kids to follow. You seem to be a typical decent guy that is environmentally conscious. But do consider the impact of your suggestions for change upon the masses that are less fortunate than us. Why rush to waste resources while people go hungry? I merely think that we need to be darn sure of the consequences of our actions before that happens. Again, make sure that the problem is real before panic rules your life. Time is available to do the science right as required and to find solutions. Enough said about this issue. Dave -----Original Message----- From: John Berry <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Dec 18, 2012 7:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Data "Worrying" 2000 climatologists about Global Warming .... Dave, I have not yet read the rest of your post. But smiled as soon as you mentioned your concern for nature. Of course Jaro too is concerned enough with clean green energy that he produces his power cleanly at surely great initial outlay.. And if you are prosecuting a 1 legged intersexual midget, your best bet would be to use a 1 legged intersexual midget prosecutor. Ok, maybe I took that too far. But obviously if you are defending pollution no one is going to be doing that as a Texan oil field owner. So while I am not accusing you of making anything up. And I am not accusing you of being paid to share such views. There are people who do and are. And they would say very much what you say, and act very much like you act. It's not so much that I am convinced that you are paid by 'them', but maybe you should be? Of course you are supposing that I follow the money involved in carbon credits. And ignore the money trail of oil, which is I think the biggest money maker in the world. John
