On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 8:04 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> In reply to  James Bowery's message of Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:24:47 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >That's very problematic given Figure 6.
> >
> >They're showing >10 gain in that figure from E7 to E12.
> >
> >How can plasma physicists who are staking their careers on billions of
> >dollars of investment to get to near break be so obsessively sadistic
> >toward claims like P&F which were far more modest, and let this slide?
>
> ...the cynic in me would say because this is "obvious" BS, and thus
> harmless,
> while P&F stood a chance of being a real threat. ;)
>
> The sentence:-
>
> "The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to
> fog
> must be the source of the explosion energy."
>
> ... is the problem. First, they have the sign of intermolecular bond energy
> wrong. When water *forms* Hydrogen bonds, energy is *released*, ergo, to
> *break*
> them *requires* energy, it doesn't magically produce more.
>
> The whole solar energy nonsense follows on from this first mistake.
>
> There may well be excess energy liberated during water arcs, but the
> source is
> almost certainly not as claimed by the Graneaus.
>
> Some form of Hydrino &/or nuclear reaction is a far better candidate.
>
> Note that Mills claims that individual H2O molecules (not liquid water
> where the
> intermolecular Hydrogen bonds are still intact), is a catalyst. In an
> electrical
> arc in water, one might reasonably expect both atomic H and individual H2O
> molecules to be present. Various forms of Oxygen which may also act as
> Mills
> catalysts are also likely to be present.
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>
Its one thing to promote an obvious BS theory, as you describe.

Its quite another to promote obvious BS scientific data.

My "problem" with Figure 6 is of the latter, not the former type of "BS".

The Enlightenment equivalent of Satan Worship is publishing false
experimental data since a main, if not THE main, point of the Enlightenment
was Experiment over Argument.  So one can understand the plasma physicists
going on a witch hunt if they genuinely believed P&F to be publishing false
experimental data.  But if that's the case, how much worse is a factor of
10 energy gain and yet nary a peep out of the high priests.

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