In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Fri, 22 Mar 2013 01:34:47 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Lou,
>
>If LENR neutrons are indeed generated as proposed by W-L, almost all will
>> be in the thermal range - quite a low momentum by fusion standards.
>>
>
>They speak about "ultra low momentum neutrons," which I think is
>significantly lower than thermal energies.  These would then collide with
>nickel substrate atoms in inelastic and elastic collisions as well as be
>absorbed.  The highest absorption cross sections in the graphs you point to
>for nickel are ~1000 for 63Ni and ~10000 for 59Ni.  63Ni is only synthetic,
>and 59Ni exists only in trace quantities, so in general the absorption
>cross section for unenriched nickel will be lower than these.  According to
>the charts, the cross section for 58Ni, the most common isotope (68
>percent), is ~100 barns, and that for 60Ni (26 percent) is ~50 barns.  So I
>think you would take the weighted average of these to get an upper bound on
>the absorption cross section of a block of normal nickel; e.g., 100 * .68 +
>50 * .26 = 81 barns. That would be the upper bound, I think, neglecting
>other isotopes that exist in small amounts.
>
>I looked, and it is difficult to pin down exactly how to calculate the half
>value layer (the amount of material needed to decrease the intensity of an
>incident neutron beam by half) starting from the microscopic total cross
>section. Here we have the absorption cross section rather than the total
>cross section.  The other two relevant cross sections -- elastic and
>inelastic -- are going to bounce our neutrons around and then out of the
>system, so I wonder if they can be neglected.  It seems that shielding
>thickness is something that is experimentally determined and not calculated
>analytically so much, although perhaps Robin or someone else can help us
>out with a calculation.

The mean free path (mfp) should be (roughly) the atomic volume divided by the
cross section. For a cross section of 81 barns and Ni, this works out to 1.351
mm.

The fraction that gets transmitted is e^(-d/mfp) where d is any given distance.
In this case e^(-d/1.351mm). So for a thickness of 10 mm, you get a transmission
fraction of 6.1E-4 = 0.061%. For 1 mm you get 47.7%.

Note however that the absorption cross section increases as the speed of the
neutrons decreases, hence WL's emphasis on "ultra cold".

(See e.g. http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/endfplot.pl?j=f&d=mcnp&f=mcnp/Ni-58)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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