Eric,

Great work. Thanks.

I was not aware that official data was imprecise.  Nice to know that.

If the thermal neutron generation is actually occurring, it seems there
should be a small amount of radioactive ash (maybe short-lived) after the
reaction is stopped.  I believe some of the sonofusion experiments report
this.  I do not know if these reports are reliable.

As far as build up of Ni59 -
Perhaps its cross section guarantees that it lasts only for a short time
in the reaction chain before converting to copper.

Also, in most experiments, the liquid of the Ni-nanoparticle emulsion may
have a significant impact.

Cheers,
Lou Pagnucco

Eric Walker wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Then you should be able to follow the same procedure, but include all the
>> natural isotopes, no?
>>
>
> I've gone back and corrected the calculation to take into account the
> missing isotopes.  This time I obtained upper and lower bounds for the
> total cross section, from both Robin's Web site [1] and Lou's site [2],
> and
> I did the calculation using Robin's method along with a modified version
> of
> that method.
>
> Here are the estimated upper and lower bounds for the total neutron cross
> sections for nickel as it is found in its natural isotopic abundances.
> The
> combined cross sections are the weighted values of the cross sections for
> individual isotopes of nickel.
>
> UB Kaeri: 206 barns
> LB Kaeri: 45 barns
> UB NDS: 94 barns
> LB NDS: 29 barns
>
> On the basis of these cross sections, I calculated the upper and lower
> bounds for the transmitted fraction of an incident beam of neutrons at 1mm
> and 10mm, using Robin's approach as well as a modified version of Robin's
> approach relying upon the mean free path described in Wikipedia's article
> on the neutron capture cross section [3]. The two sets of calculations
> agreed to within two degrees of precision, which was nice to see.  Since
> they agreed, I'll just give the transmitted percentages using Robin's
> approach:
>
> UB, 1mm: 76.6 percent
> LB, 1mm: 15.2 percent
> UB, 10mm: 7 percent
> LB, 10mm: small
>
> For 1W of power being generated by way of neutron capture, assuming around
> 10 MeV per capture, there would be about 624 billion neutrons generated
> per
> second.  The number of neutrons per second that would be transmitted
> through 1mm and 10mm of inactive nickel shielding would be:
>
> UB, 1mm: 478 billion
> LB, 1mm: 94 billion
> UB, 10mm: 43 billion
> LB, 10mm: 4000
>
> This assumes that there are no neutrons being generated in the nickel
> shielding surrounding the active core, an assumption that runs counter to
> conjecture that LENR (in Pd/D) is a surface effect.
>
> An interesting thing that I discovered as I was looking into this was that
> Robin's Web site and Lou's Web site disagree significantly on what happens
> to the total cross sections when the energies are small.  In general,
> Robin's Web site gave values that were well below the maximums, at around
> 10E-4 MeV, while Lou's site gave values that were highest at the very
> lowest energies, around 10E-10 MeV.  I'm not sure what was going on there.
>  Just to be safe, the above calculations make use of both the cross
> sections at the lowest energies as well as the maximum values for the
> cross
> sections.
>
> It interesting to note that the combined cross section can be expected to
> go way up as 58Ni transmutes to 59Ni, which normally exists in trace
> amounts but would build up over time, as 59Ni has an extremely large
> neutron capture cross section.  Note that nickel would become dangerously
> radioactive over time as it was activated under this kind of neutron flux.
>
> Eric
>
>
> [1] http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/
> [2] http://www-nds.iaea.org/ngatlas2/
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_cross_section
>


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