In reply to  Eric Walker's message of Sat, 23 Mar 2013 16:47:17 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>Thank you, Robin.
>
>On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:49 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>So I
>> >think you would take the weighted average of these to get an upper bound
>> on
>> >the absorption cross section of a block of normal nickel; e.g., 100 * .68
>> +
>> >50 * .26 = 81 barns.
>>
>
>My earlier calculation was flawed.  I neglected to include data for the
>other isotopes of nickel found in nature, so the weighted average was taken
>over parts that added up to less than 100 percent.  If you included the
>other isotopes, especially the trace one with the much higher cross
>section, I think the cross sections would have gone up.

Then you should be able to follow the same procedure, but include all the
natural isotopes, no?

>
>I see that the page you link to is for 58Ni.  Is there a straightforward
>way to to get the total cross section for nickel in its natural isotopic
>abundances?

I don't know. If I were in your shoes, I would just do what you did, but include
all the isotopes.

>
>Note however that the absorption cross section increases as the speed of the
>> neutrons decreases, hence WL's emphasis on "ultra cold".
>>
>> (See e.g.
>> http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/endfplot.pl?j=f&d=mcnp&f=mcnp/Ni-58)
>>
>
>Nickel seems to have a high total absorption cross section.  With W-L there
>is an implicit (or perhaps explicit?) assumption that the "ultra cold"
>neutrons being generated will be absorbed in sufficient numbers to avoid
>thermalizing, spilling out, spreading out into the environment and sending
>a neutron counter sky high (not necessarily a GM counter).  Suppose 1 W is
>being generated by way of neutron capture and we are sure that it is
>neutron capture that is involved.  I'm curious whether you think that some
>configuration of nickel in an unshielded cell could be found to absorb all
>of the neutrons without setting off a neutron detector, or whether
>new physics would be needed to explain the lack of neutrons leaking out.

I am no supporter of WL theory as they proclaim it. This is one of the reasons.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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