On May 11, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Jones Beene wrote:


From: Edmund Storms

Takahashi proposes to form Be8 that fragments after emitting the extra energy as gamma. However, this idea has no experimental support. The other theories do not propose energetic helium is produced. If you want to make a contribution, you need to take these facts into account.


For the record Ed, this is NOT what Takahashi says – at least not now. Everyone should be given the same leeway to evolve a theory – and his is looking better and better.

Takahashi proposes that the excited Be-8 nucleus has a relatively long lifetime in which it emits lower energy photons in a series of transitions until it reaches a level near the ground state.

Jones, when these photons are emitted, where do they originate? If they originate from electrons changing their energy, they are called X- rays. If they originate from changes in energy of the nucleus, they are called gamma. Your and Akito's description is consistent with the term gamma.

When Be8 is formed by conventional nuclear processes, it is observed to fragment into two alpha immediately. Why would Be8 made the way Takahashi proposes decay any other way? In addition, the proposed formation process that creates the cluster from which the Be8 originates violates basic thermochemical laws. Why do you accept this process?

I find that all theories are based on a series of assumptions, but some of these assumptions violate basic laws, yet the theory is accepted because the other assumptions are accepted. This is like recommending a road on which the bridge is missing just because the rest of the trip is nice. The road is no longer passible before the goal can be reached, so what is the point of using such a road?

Ed Storms

When the beryllium decays, the two alpha particles have about 90 keV of energy. He specifically says that these photons would NOT be gamma rays. He has some evidence for the 90 keV.



There is as much - or maybe more - good evidence for Takahashi’s contention - as for any theory which proposes some version of Hagelstein’s “magic phonons” as a way around the lack of gammas.

Jones

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