excuse robots were not yest overall

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> wrote:

> this theorem was formulated when robots where
> omni-present, actually it is about experimenters who
> do NOT possess a *guiding Theory*
> *
> *
> Peter
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM, DJ Cravens <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> who you calling a monkey   :)    (smiling)
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 20:11:22 +0300
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:If I want to see it for myself...
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> I wonder if a specific variant of the
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
>> can be applied to these tests with an infinite number of experimenters
>> trying an infinite number of cathodes etc ...will be able to find the
>> best, always succesful experimental set.
>> A bit more pragmatically, unlimited funding will surely result in
>> reproducible
>> powerful Pd/D systems?
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:48 PM, DJ Cravens <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>
>> Materials- yes that is an important part of it all.****
>>
>> I started with palladium fountain pen nibs (way back in 89) -  Schaeffer
>> “snorkel” – it is what I could get back then. ****
>>
>> You get higher power density with "3  or 4 nines " palladium  (but the
>> really pure stuff 5 nines doesn't work very well ??)   but if it is
>> replication (at lower densities) you seek- try the Pd 23% Ag material used
>> in diffusion systems.  If you have the ability to alloy your own, I
>> would recommend Pd 10% Y or Pd 2% Ce to start with. The Y alloy has about 3
>> times the diffusion rate and is quicker to load.****
>>
>> Be sure to load slow, cool and for a long time (see paper- DO NOT RUSH
>> LOADING).  There is some evidence that loading Pd at around 10C helps
>> (it matches the vacancy sizes and the wavelength of the D)  Then raise
>> the current density and temp (best run over 65C).****
>>
>> I wish you luck and patience. We need more serious experimenters. ****
>>
>> (if you use Pd sheet- look over the 17 step protocol Letts and I
>> disclosed in 2003 at ICCF10- It is lengthy but it seems to give reasonable
>> results)****
>>
>>  Best wishes,
>> Dennis
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 12:28:25 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:If I want to see it for myself...
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> DJ Cravens <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I , of course have a bias, however I would say if you attempt reproducing
>> the effect you may wish to look over Letts' and my  paper:
>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CravensDtheenablin.pdf
>>
>>
>> Excellent advice!
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEhowtoprodu.pdf
>>
>> However, the key thing is to get good material, and that is not easy. The
>> ENEA makes it, but they only share it with accredited university and
>> national labs.
>>
>> I suppose you might try some Johnson Matthey hydrogen filter palladium.
>> As I said, Martin recommended that. It was the old formula. Perhaps it had
>> trace elements in it that enhanced the reaction. It had more impurities
>> than the modern version. I do not know anyone who has tried the newer
>> filter palladium. It might work just as well as the old stuff, or better. I
>> would like to find out.
>>
>> Tanaka Precious Metals might be interested in a cooperative set of
>> experiments.
>>
>> Bear in mind that the procedures described by Storms take considerable
>> expertise, and a lot of time. About a year. He started with ~100 cathodes
>> and winnowed out 4 that worked well. (I think it was 4 . . . I am not in my
>> office so I cannot consult my notes.) These 4 worked consistently and
>> repeatedly. I think it is fair to say as a result of these tests,
>> reproducibility increases to 100%. You have to leave behind ~96% of the
>> starting cathode material, but what you end up with always works.
>>
>> As you see in the paper, the winnowing process does not involve simple
>> trial and error cold fusion electrochemistry. It is as if Storms runs 100
>> cells to find 4 that work. He does other diagnostic tests that tell him in
>> advance whether cathode will or will not work. These tests are similar to
>> the ones recommended by Cravens.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
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> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>



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Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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