Fran, I combined your two responses.
As I understand, an attraction is measured between two materials,
which is sensitive to the kind of material and the distance between
them. That is the only observation on which this complex theory is
based. Chemical attraction is known to occur, but assumptions are
made about how to subtract this force.
People assume that corrections have been properly made for the
chemical force. If no other explanation had been suggested, all of
the force would have been attributed to chemical attraction. But,
people want to assume that something exists in vacuum space that can
be detected. So they assume some of this force is caused by this
proposed energy field.
Just how the field can cause a force is difficult to explain. Photons
obviously do not work as an explanation. Now you suggest that the
force is related to gravity and inertia. This seems to be an odd kind
of force to invoke. Gravity passes right through ordinary matter yet,
if it causes the Casimir force, it can apparently transfer momentum
when a small gap is created. Inertia only occurs when the velocity of
mass is changed. I see no connection between the behaviors.
If the gap has a critical size, quantum interference is proposed to
stop a flux of something, thereby creating an unbalanced force. But,
the field does not interact with ordinary material, so how does the
force become unbalanced such that it will interact with the atoms in
the material? In addition, if a flux of something is stopped, where
does its energy go? If something is moving such that it can cause
something else to move (create a force), then energy is involved in
the process. This is a basic condition. When that motion is stopped,
the energy must be converted to a different form. Something else must
move, thereby creating heat, which is caused by random motion of
atoms. Hand-waving using the idea of quantum effects that are
invisible and impossible for people to imagine seems like a copout to
me. Whatever happens at the quantum level and whatever its cause, the
result later enters our non-quantum reality and has to be consistent
with the laws we know operate in the normal reality. Conservation of
energy is one of these basic laws. If energy exists in the vacuum and
if this energy can be experienced in our reality, than the process
must be consistent with the Law of Conservation of Energy. The energy
lost by the source, i.e. vacuum, must be equal to the energy acquired
by the material being studied. So, a description of the Casimir
effect must show exactly how this energy transfer occurs. Instead, the
description seems to ramble, use obscure concepts, and gives no
insight. This is worse than the descriptions of cold fusion. :-)
Fran, no gas atoms are present, as you incorrectly describe below.
The Casimir effect is caused in vacuum. Consequently, I have no idea
what you are talking about and what rectifying energy means. You are
wandering off into totally confusing ideas and descriptions. You
introduce behavior into the discussion that has no relationship to
observation and is real only in your imagination, yet you state it as
fact. Consequently, I have no idea how to respond.
Ed
On May 19, 2013, at 7:51 PM, francis wrote:
Ed,
I have been without pc all weekend but see that Mark
and Jones made a far better response than I could have managed,
someone made reference to the Haisch Rhueda paper on inertia which
bears heavily on your questions about if this is normal photon
radiation … if they are correct than it is not photon radiation. We
are talking about the same waveforms that are responsible for
gravity and inertia and this is why there is no Farady shielding,
everything is permeated at 90 degrees to the physical plane, these
waveforms approach and depart from a nonphysical dimension like time
winking into and out of existence only as they cross through the
Present. I suspect that HUP or jitter is just these virtual
particles growing into then contracting out of our 3d ant farm plane
and the random displacement of all physical matter from within the
tiniest subatomic particles on up in response to these inter
dimensional interlopers. According to Puthoff these virtual
particles create a pressure that is responsible for the ground state
of everything from quarks up to and beyond the periodic table, they
form a sea or river, a medium that he believes can be engineered
using Casimir geometry with other techniques to concentrate and
extend this natural phenomenon we see commonly all around us in the
form of colloids like mayonnaise or the stiction we see making it
difficult to sort nanotubes. My posit is that we are causing
breaks in micro gravity.. cavity QED says the isotropy can be
broken at this geometry where the inverse of Casimir boundary
spacing cubed can trump the normal square law we experience as
denizens of a gravity well in the macro world. When Jones mentioned
dynamic Casimir effect in regards to recent evidence using
transistor like device called SQUIDS they are effectively moving one
of the Casimir boundaries at luminal velocities. In these metal
powders or skeletal cats the conjecture is that there are boundaries
everywhere and of different sizes, a tapestry of different
suppression values that the gas atoms are migrating through with the
help of the “normally” unusable energy called gas motion….
Fran
Hi Ed,
There is no heat generated by an empty cavity, it is only when gas
atoms passing through this cavity environment react with the quantum
effect of the walls and each other that anomalous energy is released.
When Jones cited the importance of DCE it also underlined the
importance for changes in casimir force to result in any net energy
capture... Many people, myself included, are convinced that this
translation between different geometries must be accomplished in an
asymmetrical manner to rectify any energy..if atoms come in, translate
to different geometries and then exit the NAE without any
interactions / reactions there will be no energy release. In the MACRO
world it would be silly to construct a device that performs half a
cycle at no gravity and then lands on a planet to perform the other
half cycle because you are doing the work with your ships propulsion
system. OTOH in the NANO world we are suggesting a way to exploit HUP/
gas motion to perform equivalent propulsion while exploiting gravity
warps created by quantum effects /geometry. We don't have to wait for
the slow square law of a gravity well to accomplish chain because this
geometry trumps the square law and creates breaches in the isotropy
that equate to sudden jumps in a particles position within the gravity
well..or actually the gravity hill in this case as we outside the
cavity represent the bottom of a well even if we were free floating in
space. Supression allows us to warp space time negative relative to
zero gravity. My point being we can create or self assemble a bulk
powder device with conditions like my silly analogy of half cycles
using a spaceship without supplying any propulsion energy..the
reacting gas atoms only have to move between different breaks in the
isotropy and that motion is supplied for free by HUP.
