It looks like some flying/gliding frogs have flaps of skin, which are like
wings...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_frog
It is hard for me to comment on the rest of the unfalsifiable
falsifications of Rossi's results. As for me, I think he has something. I
am not much for conspiracy theories involving multiple Scientists although
I suppose you can find anything under the sun and I certainly don't think a
comet is a snowball
Stewart
On Sunday, May 26, 2013, David Roberson wrote:
> That is funny. I guess they can fly, but do they use their wings?
>
> If you want to get technical about this you would say that the people who
> saw them fly were all confused by a scammer. Perhaps someone down the
> street had a catapult and used it to throw a large number of them to the
> observers. How do we know that this did not happen? Also, maybe all of
> the observers were in the scam together. Their reward was to keep all of
> the frog legs they could capture as long as the king. who loves frog
> legs dearly, does not find out and slay the entire bunch.
>
> I am confident that many silly stories can be concocted just as with the
> "CAT scam".
>
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'cheme...@gmail.com');>>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'vortex-l@eskimo.com');>>
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 8:39 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power
> measurments
>
> It has already been proven that bullfrogs can fly, most likely caused
> from strings of vacuum energy.
>
> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_animals
>
> On Sunday, May 26, 2013, David Roberson wrote:
>
> How do we know that your diode trick will actually do what you think? You
> need to prove that this is possible, otherwise anyone can make the
> assumption that it might not work just as with the ECAT tests. If you do
> not prove that this will work, then why should we accept it as a
> possibility?
>
> A lot of time and energy is being wasted trying to see if bull frogs can
> fly. Some might actually be born with wings. Have we proven that none of
> them can fly?
>
> Rossi and the testers have done a lot to prove that the ECAT works. No
> one has proven that it does not. The only offers from the other side of
> the table assume fraud. Is this a valid position for them to take?
>
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Cumming <spacedr...@cumming.info>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 8:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments
>
> I am not trying to assert anything as fact. I am merely pointing out
> that a simple diode inside the controller box (to which access was
> forbidden by Rossi) COULD HAVE given the observed results. I am NOT saying
> that it, in fact, did, merely speculating that it could have.
>
> For any scientific experiment, the onus is on the experimenters to produce
> the result. The best way to do this is to provide sufficient information
> for others to replicate the experiment.
>
> Duncan
>
> On 5/26/2013 5:07 PM, David Roberson wrote:
>
> Perhaps you should build one of these scam machines and prove that it will
> work without being detected. That would be the best way to show that it is
> possible. Why should we accept this assertion as fact any more than
> believing that the testers missed finding the scam?
>
> We can spend an equal amount of time knocking down any theory that is put
> forth as others can spend assuming they are real.
>
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Cumming <spacedr...@cumming.info>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 7:59 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman describes power measurments
>
> "The only possibility to fool the power-meter then is to raise the DC
> voltage on all the four lines"
>
> This turns out not to be the case. You could also draw DC current
> through any of the lines, which current would not register on the
> clamps. The simplest way to do this would be just to use a diode in
> series with the heating element.
>
> Since power = current x voltage x pf, it is NOT necessary to change the
> voltage in order to change the power.
>
> Duncan
>
> On 5/26/2013 2:21 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> > A Swedish correspondent sent me this link:
> >
> > http://www.energikatalysatorn.se/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=560&sid=5450c28dab532569dee72f88a43a56f0&start=330
> >
> > This is a discussion in Swedish, which Google does a good job
> > translating. Before you translate it, you will see that in the middle
> > of it is a message from one of the authors, Torbjörn Hartman, in
> > English. Here it is, with a few typos corrected.
>
>
