You are correct Eric.  For some reason the skeptics amoung us do not want to 
understand this issue.  I suspect that it is some form of game they are playing.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 3:38 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Torbjörn Hartman 
describes power measurments


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:




No separate DC power source is necessary if Duncan's diode fudge is used.



Yes, but the point is that you'd need to intentionally tamper with the mains to 
pull it off, i.e., it implies fraud, if I'm understanding the diode fudge, in 
light of the DC short to ground in the transformer.


Put another way, is there any way to draw hidden current from the mains that 
does not entail tampering between the transformer and the mains?  Earlier 
Duncan seemed to think that there was a way, but this particular approach does 
not appear to be an example.  But perhaps I'm misunderstanding an important 
detail?


Eric






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