On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote:
> I'm saying that BEC is known to form near absolute zero but has not been > shown to form BETWEEN ATOMS at higher temperatures. > ***Is an optically trapped potassium-39 gas somehow not formed of ATOMS? http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg78827.html > People have PROPOSED BEC formation at high temperature between energy > states but this has not been fully demonstrated or shown to apply to atoms. > > > My approach is to ask what would be the consequence if we ASSUME the BEC > actually forms in PdD. The consequence leads to logical conflict, which > has not been resolved. I'm asking you or someone to resolve this conflict. > > Ed I'm > > On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > Now, wait a second. After responding to this and seeing your lack of > response, then repeating the same thing on another thread it leads me to > re-examine what you wrote. Perhaps you are saying here that near-zero BECs > have formed in Metal Hydrides? If so, then how can you say on the other > thread > > Why invoke a structure that is known not to form at high temperature? > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg82949.html > > Then that means BECs have been known to form in metal hydrides, or you are > pretending like we never had this conversation about BECs forming at high > temperatures. Which is it? Or perhaps there's an in-between thing I'm > overlooking, that no doubt would save face for one or both of us? > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Kevin, I see no evidence in the link for the actual existence of a BEC >> forming between hydrons at room temperature. People have proposed but not >> demonstrated. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> On May 27, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> The BEC is known from experience and theory to only form near absolute >> zero. >> ***How quickly you forget having logged onto this thread: >> >> Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room >> Temperature<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22Re%3A+%5BVo%5D%3ABose+Einstein+Condensate+formed+at+Room+Temperature%22> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg76596.html >> >> And this thread was greeted with a yawn: >> [Vo]:Re: Superheated Bose-Einstein condensate exists above critical >> temperature<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22%5BVo%5D%3ARe%3A+Superheated+Bose-Einstein+condensate+exists+above+critical+temperature%22> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg78827.html >> >> >> >> >> > >
