Hi MarkG, No, you're not missing anything. a control cell producing some small amount of heat would result in a *conservative* (i.e., lower) estimate of power generated in the test cell. assuming that the test cell is at least several sigma above the control cell so experimental uncertainty was not a reasonable explanation for the excess.
-Mark I From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat Am I missing something here? Surely if the control cell is producing some small amount of energy from an LENR process due to contamination but it's less than that being produced by the experimental cell then while a baseline might be hard or even impossible to establish wouldn't a significant power gain be detectable and verifiable? [mg] On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:55 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]> wrote: Jones' point about ANY exposure to H is acknowledged... That being said, does anyone know the exact procedure by which the material in the control cell was prepared and the cell assembled??? Obviously, the nichrome wire was shipped to them, but was it exposed to air (humid air will supply plenty of H)? How were the cells assembled?? I can't imagine that they were somehow assembled in a vacuum; perhaps in an inert gaseous environment?? -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:MFMP cells in Europe and US now showing signs of excess heat On 2013-06-27 00:42, Jones Beene wrote: > Whether or not nickel-hydride with 7% by atomic volume hydrogen will > give much net gain is debatable - but the lack of hydrogen gas in the > cell after vacuum purge may not be enough for a good control (if the > nichrome was previously alloyed with hydrogen). The control cells have not been exposed to hydrogen yet. Are you suggesting that they might have been, inadvertently? Cheers, S.A.
